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Reply #150 - May 22nd, 2015 at 5:40pm
 
Soren wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Aussie wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 4:57pm:
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The UN Convention, states ILLEGAL ENTRIES, the Immigration Dept states ILLEGAL also...  just how many times must I post it for you all?  hmmm.


You can post it as many times as you like.  It is political propaganda as I have established.  Perhaps you can assist by referring to specific sections of the
Act
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Illegal maritime arrivals
People who arrived illegally by boat are referred to​ as illegal maritime arrivals (IMAs).

http://www.immi.gov.au/About/Pages/ima/info.aspx

SO you are saying that Australian Department of Immigration doesn't know?  Remember, it's not the government, it's the public service - non-party political.



Forget the Morrison propaganda.  I have already posted the link, but I guess you missed it.  So, just for you:

Link.

So far, to no avail, I have asked Rhino and Grendel, so now I'll ask you to assist by referring to specific sections of the
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Forget the propaganda.

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Reply #151 - May 22nd, 2015 at 5:42pm
 
Why do 90% of boat people have to be bloody muslims??
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Reply #152 - May 22nd, 2015 at 6:23pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 5:40pm:
Soren wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Aussie wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 4:57pm:
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The UN Convention, states ILLEGAL ENTRIES, the Immigration Dept states ILLEGAL also...  just how many times must I post it for you all?  hmmm.


You can post it as many times as you like.  It is political propaganda as I have established.  Perhaps you can assist by referring to specific sections of the
Act
?

Illegal maritime arrivals
People who arrived illegally by boat are referred to​ as illegal maritime arrivals (IMAs).

http://www.immi.gov.au/About/Pages/ima/info.aspx

SO you are saying that Australian Department of Immigration doesn't know?  Remember, it's not the government, it's the public service - non-party political.



Forget the Morrison propaganda.  I have already posted the link, but I guess you missed it.  So, just for you:

Link.

So far, to no avail, I have asked Rhino and Grendel, so now I'll ask you to assist by referring to specific sections of the
Act
?

Forget the propaganda.




Your link: Link.
AUTHOR   Tom Clark
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Tom Clark is a member of the National Tertiary Education Union, which has adopted public position on asylum seekers coming to Australia.


Forget the propaganda.



And remember - these unlawful non-citizens (illegal immigrants) are not fleeing Indonesia and Malaysia to which Australia is the closest safe haven.
Burmese, Bangladeshis, Pakis, Iraqis are not in danger in Malaysia or Indonesia.
You should put your efforts into castigating the Malays and Indonesians for being bad global citizens for not signing the Refugee convention. It is stupid to leapfrog over all the SE Asian cruelty and callousness and see nothing but Australia as the saviour of everyone. Just stupid.

Petition the Indos and the Malays to be proper, mature, responsible nations.i
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Reply #153 - May 22nd, 2015 at 6:26pm
 
double plus good wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 5:42pm:
Why do 90% of boat people have to be bloody muslims??



It must be because of Amerikkka and the Zionist entity. There is simpoly no other possible answer.

What? No Amerikkka and Zionist Entity in Burma?

Well, then it's because the WHOLE WORLD (manipulated by Amerikkka and the Zionist Entity) is against Muslims.

Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.
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Reply #154 - May 22nd, 2015 at 6:30pm
 
double plus good wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 5:42pm:
Why do 90% of boat people have to be bloody muslims??



I don't have the current numbers but a few years ago the majority were Christian.
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Reply #155 - May 22nd, 2015 at 6:38pm
 
Soren wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 6:26pm:
double plus good wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 5:42pm:
Why do 90% of boat people have to be bloody muslims??



It must be because of Amerikkka and the Zionist entity. There is simpoly no other possible answer.

What? No Amerikkka and Zionist Entity in Burma?

Well, then it's because the WHOLE WORLD (manipulated by Amerikkka and the Zionist Entity) is against Muslims.

Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.
They won't answer that. Everybody knows muslims can't get along with anybody. Even themselves.
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Reply #156 - May 22nd, 2015 at 6:41pm
 
Dnarever wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 6:30pm:
double plus good wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 5:42pm:
Why do 90% of boat people have to be bloody muslims??



I don't have the current numbers but a few years ago the majority were Christian.
That's wrong. Except for a few Iraqi Christians and some Tamils every other group is Muslim. Iranians, Iraqis, Afghans, Pakis, Bangladeshis, Somalians, Sudanese etc. Now this new group are mussos. Where does it end? They hate us but want to bloody live with us for some reason.
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Reply #157 - May 22nd, 2015 at 7:05pm
 
They may stop the boats but they will never stop leftist idiocy  Cheesy
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Reply #158 - May 23rd, 2015 at 4:03am
 
As the only poster on here, that I have seen, who has openly admitted to being racist, I have no qualms in saying I do not want to see muslims coming to live in australia. Now please do not confuse my admitting to holding racist beliefs with my supporting the abuse or mistreatment of any individuals, based upon their racial background, because I do not.
I do however believe that racial stereotypes are most often earned, and the current belief that muslim means trouble is certainly hard to argue against.
Prior to the late 1970's, when we saw the meteoric rise of  militant Islamism, I held a different view about muslims, and if in time we revert to a state where they do not present as a significant threat to the peace and security of non muslims, then I would be happy to re-assess my position.

So I say, muslim refugees should only be granted asylum in muslim communities/countries.
We should take refugees who do not live obsessive lives trying to avenge any historical score or commit to any religious zealotry.

This current bunch of roohinyar are no exception, let muslim countries take them, because historically, they have not  behaved peacefully, or charitably to the non muslims they lived with.
In WW2 when the british gave them arms to fight the japanese, they instead decided to use the arms against the non-muslim burmese they lived with.
Pretty typical Islamic behaviour.
Personally, I would prefer to deal with an enemy elsewhere, than an enemy within my own community.
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Reply #159 - May 23rd, 2015 at 9:27am
 
double plus good wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 6:41pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 6:30pm:
double plus good wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 5:42pm:
Why do 90% of boat people have to be bloody muslims??



I don't have the current numbers but a few years ago the majority were Christian.
That's wrong. Except for a few Iraqi Christians and some Tamils every other group is Muslim. Iranians, Iraqis, Afghans, Pakis, Bangladeshis, Somalians, Sudanese etc. Now this new group are mussos. Where does it end? They hate us but want to bloody live with us for some reason.


so you're assuming that because they came from predominantly Muslim countries they had to be Muslim?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #160 - May 23rd, 2015 at 2:13pm
 
mozzaok wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 4:03am:
As the only poster on here, that I have seen, who has openly admitted to being racist, I have no qualms in saying I do not want to see muslims coming to live in australia. Now please do not confuse my admitting to holding racist beliefs with my supporting the abuse or mistreatment of any individuals, based upon their racial background, because I do not.
I do however believe that racial stereotypes are most often earned, and the current belief that muslim means trouble is certainly hard to argue against.
Prior to the late 1970's, when we saw the meteoric rise of  militant Islamism, I held a different view about muslims, and if in time we revert to a state where they do not present as a significant threat to the peace and security of non muslims, then I would be happy to re-assess my position.

So I say, muslim refugees should only be granted asylum in muslim communities/countries.
We should take refugees who do not live obsessive lives trying to avenge any historical score or commit to any religious zealotry.

This current bunch of roohinyar are no exception, let muslim countries take them, because historically, they have not  behaved peacefully, or charitably to the non muslims they lived with.
In WW2 when the british gave them arms to fight the japanese, they instead decided to use the arms against the non-muslim burmese they lived with.
Pretty typical Islamic behaviour.
Personally, I would prefer to deal with an enemy elsewhere, than an enemy within my own community.




Yes but you need to understand the idiot lefts mindset on this, the more trouble the muslims are the more determined the idiot left are to bring them to Australia, that is a crazy position to take but crazy is what the idiot left is all about.  Cheesy
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Reply #161 - May 23rd, 2015 at 2:17pm
 
Oh dear

MOST of the people stranded on boats at sea off Indonesia are not Rohingya refugees but illegal labourers from Bangladesh, Indonesian officials have reportedly told Australian officials.

http://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/rohingya-refugee-crisis-indonesia-claims-boats-carry-bangladesh-labourers/story-fnh819y6-1227366281558
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Reply #162 - May 23rd, 2015 at 2:20pm
 
mozzaok wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 4:03am:
As the only poster on here, that I have seen, who has openly admitted to being racist, I have no qualms in saying I do not want to see muslims coming to live in australia. Now please do not confuse my admitting to holding racist beliefs with my supporting the abuse or mistreatment of any individuals, based upon their racial background, because I do not.
I do however believe that racial stereotypes are most often earned, and the current belief that muslim means trouble is certainly hard to argue against.
Prior to the late 1970's, when we saw the meteoric rise of  militant Islamism, I held a different view about muslims, and if in time we revert to a state where they do not present as a significant threat to the peace and security of non muslims, then I would be happy to re-assess my position.

So I say, muslim refugees should only be granted asylum in muslim communities/countries.
We should take refugees who do not live obsessive lives trying to avenge any historical score or commit to any religious zealotry.

This current bunch of roohinyar are no exception, let muslim countries take them, because historically, they have not  behaved peacefully, or charitably to the non muslims they lived with.
In WW2 when the british gave them arms to fight the japanese, they instead decided to use the arms against the non-muslim burmese they lived with.
Pretty typical Islamic behaviour.
Personally, I would prefer to deal with an enemy elsewhere, than an enemy within my own community.

I'm guessing you don't believe in Multiculti anymore then eh Mozza...  good for you.  Join the club.
BTW I'm still not racist. Wink
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Reply #163 - May 23rd, 2015 at 2:21pm
 
They stopped the boats???

Yes in extreme weather conditions the Manly ferry is always closed for the day.
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Reply #164 - May 23rd, 2015 at 2:37pm
 
mothra wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 4:19pm:
Grendel wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 3:46pm:
|dev|null wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 2:39pm:
Soren wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 2:18pm:
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But illegal entrants is still correct.


It all boils down to grammatical semantics and each side will choose the phrase which suits their agenda.

These people are not illegal or illegals.  Their entry in some context may be described as illegal.

The bigots choose to blur the distinction.

They are foreigners entering Australia illegally.

No blurring.


They are foreigners entering Australia legally to claim Asylum Soren.  No lies, please!   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy


liar liar pants on fire...
they are illegal entries and the UN says as much.
How many times must I post quotes and explain it to you people. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




I've already effectively countered that. The UN charter gives each country sovereignty over there own borders, stating that countries are to make up their own laws about border crossing.

Therefore we revert to Australian law in regards to what we spe ify assylum seekers to be, under which an asylum seeker is an "unlawful non-citizen". Not illegal at all.

The insistance of Morrison that staffers use the term "illegal" is to taint public opinion. It is divicive and incorrect. He's using the Protocol Against the Smuggling of Migrants towards the same end.

It's Deliberately misleading and NOT Australian law.



They enter illegally and become unlawfuil non-citizens until they claim asylum and become asylum seekers. If they are found to be genuine refugees, they will be given refugee status. Then they can seek settlement.

SO they start out as illegal entrants because they cross the frontiers illegally.

As most of them are not genuine refugees but economic migrants who pretend to be refugees, it is safe to say that they are illegal immigrants at the point of crossing into Australian territory.



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