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Reply #16 - May 11^th, 2015 at 8:09pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Those are the Rules. Uber operates outside them....and they are operating illegally.

They have been ordered to cease and desist in Queensland and it is costing them plenty each week for their illegal operations.

Government mafia rules designed to relieve the government mafia parasite scum from ever having to get a real job thats all, as a business owner I can't believe that you would defend them, no respectable business owner would be thankful about massive red tape and regulation thats sole purpose is to provide jobs to useless bludging scum and parasites.

A private car picks someone up at the airport so what is the Taxi directorate going to do about that ? Check out every private car that picks someone up at the airport Cheesy

LOL That's technological progress for you Wink

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Reply #17 - May 11^th, 2015 at 8:28pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Those are the Rules. Uber operates outside them....and they are operating illegally.

They have been ordered to cease and desist in Queensland and it is costing them plenty each week for their illegal operations.

Government mafia rules designed to relieve the government mafia parasite scum from ever having to get a real job thats all, as a business owner I can't believe that you would defend them, no respectable business owner would be thankful about massive red tape and regulation thats sole purpose is to provide jobs to useless bludging scum and parasites.

A private car picks someone up at the airport so what is the Taxi directorate going to do about that ? Check out every private car that picks someone up at the airport Cheesy

LOL That's technological progress for you Wink

And that illustrates how Uber is circumventing the Law. No problem doing that, if there is no charge, but the instant that private car charges....that makes it illegal and dangerous for the customer.

And to pick up on the other point I think you are making.......do you really reckon, when there are a "thousand" taxi eyes out there watching what goes on every hour that anyone who keeps turning up is not going to be noticed? Do you really reckon the Industry and the Government are not using undercover people who ring Uber to expose the illegal cars and their drivers?

Do you really reckon, especially where I operate, any Uber car operating illegally would have four inflated tyres any and every morning? How long do you reckon an illegal Uber driver would last doing his illegal activity in 'frontier land' where the local posse might do what the outlaws are doing and take the Law into their own hands?

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Reply #18 - May 11^th, 2015 at 10:17pm

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Those are the Rules. Uber operates outside them....and they are operating illegally.

They have been ordered to cease and desist in Queensland and it is costing them plenty each week for their illegal operations.

Government mafia rules designed to relieve the government mafia parasite scum from ever having to get a real job thats all, as a business owner I can't believe that you would defend them, no respectable business owner would be thankful about massive red tape and regulation thats sole purpose is to provide jobs to useless bludging scum and parasites.

A private car picks someone up at the airport so what is the Taxi directorate going to do about that ? Check out every private car that picks someone up at the airport Cheesy

LOL That's technological progress for you Wink

And that illustrates how Uber is circumventing the Law. No problem doing that, if there is no charge, but the instant that private car charges....that makes it illegal and dangerous for the customer.

And to pick up on the other point I think you are making.......do you really reckon, when there are a "thousand" taxi eyes out there watching what goes on every hour that anyone who keeps turning up is not going to be noticed? Do you really reckon the Industry and the Government are not using undercover people who ring Uber to expose the illegal cars and their drivers?

Do you really reckon, especially where I operate, any Uber car operating illegally would have four inflated tyres any and every morning? How long do you reckon an illegal Uber driver would last doing his illegal activity in 'frontier land' where the local posse might do what the outlaws are doing and take the Law into their own hands?

and the transactions are made in cyberspace. no physical cash or card changes hands.

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And to pick up on the other point I think you are making.......do you really reckon, when there are a "thousand" taxi eyes out there watching what goes on every hour that anyone who keeps turning up is not going to be noticed? Do you really reckon the Industry and the Government are not using undercover people who ring Uber to expose the illegal cars and their drivers?

purely circumstantial based on speculation.

i don't think you have too many choices other than to become an uber driver yourself Wink

if you can't beat them join them Wink

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Reply #20 - May 12^th, 2015 at 5:27am

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

Mr Nail, I think you have to acknowledge you have no idea about Uber's illegality or how the Taxi Industry works. Most people don't.

I've had my say here, so no more from me.

The taxi industry entered into a pact with the devil ( otherwise known as big government ) and decided that together they would rip everyone off and divide the spoils, now that model is under threat and the government may need to cut the taxi industry loose so that the taxi industry can wander off to the taxi industry elephant grave yard to wither and die out of sight out of mind while the government devil makes a new pact with Uber.

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Reply #21 - May 12^th, 2015 at 11:20am

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

Mr Nail, I think you have to acknowledge you have no idea about Uber's illegality or how the Taxi Industry works. Most people don't.

I've had my say here, so no more from me.

I think you are trying to put on a brave face whilst hiding behind an outdated business model where its survival is dependent upon legislating away any competition.

As far as illegality is concerned Uber has deep pockets and is willing to cough up any fines on behalf of its members.

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Reply #22 - May 12^th, 2015 at 11:39am

Sir lastnail wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

Mr Nail, I think you have to acknowledge you have no idea about Uber's illegality or how the Taxi Industry works. Most people don't.

I've had my say here, so no more from me.

I think you are trying to put on a brave face whilst hiding behind an outdated business model where its survival is dependent upon legislating away any competition.

As far as illegality is concerned Uber has deep pockets and is willing to cough up any fines on behalf of its members.

Hmmmm are they willing to go to gaol for them?

You do realise that is an option for a government for breaking the law and what about the criminal conviction for defying the law?

You just love to screw people over if there is something in for you don't you.

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Reply #23 - May 12^th, 2015 at 12:36pm

Noneofyourbusiness wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 11:39am:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 10:37pm:

Mr Nail, I think you have to acknowledge you have no idea about Uber's illegality or how the Taxi Industry works. Most people don't.

I've had my say here, so no more from me.

I think you are trying to put on a brave face whilst hiding behind an outdated business model where its survival is dependent upon legislating away any competition.

As far as illegality is concerned Uber has deep pockets and is willing to cough up any fines on behalf of its members.

Hmmmm are they willing to go to gaol for them?

You do realise that is an option for a government for breaking the law and what about the criminal conviction for defying the law?

You just love to screw people over if there is something in for you don't you.

What's in it for me apart from a better deal ?

As far as screwing people over you need to consider how long we the melbourne general public have been screwed over by not having a rail link from the airport to the city and having to pay $150 for a taxi ride for a trip which should only cost no more than $30 by train !!

It will be a sad day if the government legislates against progress. That's the sort of thing you'd expect from a bunch of Luddites but seeing the taxi monopoly has got its way so far I wouldn't be surprised Sad

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Reply #24 - May 27^th, 2015 at 1:18pm

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Those are the Rules. Uber operates outside them....and they are operating illegally.

They have been ordered to cease and desist in Queensland and it is costing them plenty each week for their illegal operations.

Uber is starting to whinge.

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Online transport company Uber is accusing the Queensland Government of siding with the taxi industry and trying to shut the ride sharing service down.

The Uber app, which offers a pick-up and drop-off service using a credit card, wants to be recognised as a ride sharing operation, rather than a taxi.

In a submission to Queensland MPs, Uber said the Transport Department was trying to shut it down by refusing to discuss reforms to enable the ride sharing app to operate.

Uber said it had been operating in Queensland for just over a year and more than 100,000 Queenslanders had chosen ride sharing as their preferred way to get around Brisbane and the Gold Coast.

Uber spokesman Brad Kitschke said the Department of Transport was refusing to meet with the company.

"We believe the Government is using existing rules to try and protect the incumbent industry from competition and doing so unreasonably," he said.

Horseshit. Uber is a taxi service pure and simple. Even the taxman has now made that decision, and has required that Uber drivers register for the GST, put in returns, and pay the 10%.

The Government is not protecting the taxi industry at all. It is doing what Government does.....enforce existing law. Uber can pretend it is a girafe all it wants, but it is a taxi service, and must meet the regulatory obligations Government imposes on such services.

Simple.

As I have said, the Industry is not scared of another Cab Company. They come and go like as has happened over the years in various parts of metropolitan and rural Queensland. But......any new arrival needs to play on the same field as the rest of us. No free kicks, Uber. Comply with the Law.

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Reply #26 - May 27^th, 2015 at 1:53pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 1:41pm:

Aussie wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 1:18pm:

As I have said, the Industry is not scared of another Cab Company.

No, not as long as that cab company pays protection money to the government mafia like you have to Grin

I would not use those terms, but yes, they ought to pay the same fees etc we have to pay. Why should they not? There is nothing special about them. They are just another Cab Company trying to evade its obligations.

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Reply #27 - May 27^th, 2015 at 2:13pm

Aussie wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 1:53pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 1:41pm:

Aussie wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 1:18pm:

As I have said, the Industry is not scared of another Cab Company.

No, not as long as that cab company pays protection money to the government mafia like you have to Grin

I would not use those terms, but yes, they ought to pay the same fees etc we have to pay. Why should they not? There is nothing special about them. They are just another Cab Company trying to evade its obligations.

The real problem is that the government mafia has muscled in on your turf and now you have to pay the government mafia hundreds of thousands of dollars in protection money before they will allow you to do business on their streets, the problem began when the government mafia got involved, like the italian mafia they are just after kick backs so that they don't have to get a real job like driving cabs.

You have to get the government mafia out of your life, support small government and put that lazy government scum out on its arse and on the dole where it belongs. Wink

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Reply #28 - May 27^th, 2015 at 2:31pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

Aussie wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 1:53pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 1:41pm:

Aussie wrote on May 27^th, 2015 at 1:18pm:

As I have said, the Industry is not scared of another Cab Company.

No, not as long as that cab company pays protection money to the government mafia like you have to Grin

I would not use those terms, but yes, they ought to pay the same fees etc we have to pay. Why should they not? There is nothing special about them. They are just another Cab Company trying to evade its obligations.

The real problem is that the government mafia has muscled in on your turf and now you have to pay the government mafia hundreds of thousands of dollars in protection money before they will allow you to do business on their streets, the problem began when the government mafia got involved, like the italian mafia they are just after kick backs so that they don't have to get a real job like driving cabs.

You have to get the government mafia out of your life, support small government and put that lazy government scum out on its arse and on the dole where it belongs. Wink

That'd be great, but totally unrealistic. I cannot see any Government handing back to Industry any amount let alone one probably well over a Billion dollars.

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Reply #29 - May 27^th, 2015 at 2:43pm

$350 000 for a taxi licence, thats just insane!!!, and how did we get to such insanity, government interference thats how, once you get government to solve a problem that problem will become inherently worse.

The government is trying their best to protect their investment, ie you, but if push comes to shove they will dump you and 99.9% of the public won't give a sh!t.

Its kind of like pre WW2, first they came for the jews and we said nothing, and now in circa 2015 when they come for the taxi drivers that have paid $350 000 to the government mafia for a protection racket we said nothing Grin

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