This guys refutation of so called (american) "Libertarianism" (really corporate totalitarianism) is excellent.  As he says; you just need logic.   

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 4^th, 2015 at 10:34am:


Proof positive that if you place a microphone and a video camera close enough to a leftist's asshole it will try to imitate a meadowlark, but it's breath will still smell like sh!t, and the message will still snort like the bull it came from.   
And then there will always be those here that will gladly gobble up all that bull sh!t and chant in lockstep that it's the logical gospel truth.
Simple minds are simply convinced simply.   

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 4^th, 2015 at 12:34pm:


Leftists are always with envy.
They envy what somebody else earned, and then need to take it away from them because those that refuse to earn it themselves are somehow more entitled to it.   

Tax the rich the same as everyone else, and regulate only what legitimately needs regulation, not regulation for regulation's sake 

Mortdooley wrote on May 4^th, 2015 at 11:24am:


There is an argument that considerable debt should be transmitted to future generations because when they are born they acquire the benefit of the public capital investment of generations that preceded them.

Roads, bridges and other utilities and goods.

So it is rational to argue that new generations should inherit debt from preceding generations.

Tap wrote on May 4^th, 2015 at 12:41pm:
There are billionaires who are saying the same as this guy on the video is saying. Warren buffett and Nick Hanauer. Do you think its envy for them too. When someone says I want to be paid what I'm worth and I want you to pay taxes like the rest of us, so we get more schools etc, is that always about envy. Even someone as impressionable as you must know that there are many in the community who are motivated (and in my view its almost all) not by envy but by what they believe to be fair.  When the commercial elite say we should not be made to pay a minimum wage or penalty rates its because they think its fair, not because they are envious.

Not one single well off or rich person in society could possibly live as well as they do if it wasn't for the community that makes it possible. They live far better then even kings 100 years ago lived.  But even though they are the first to scream "user pays", there is no way they want to put a value on the extraordinary benefits they get from society compared to the rest of us. No, after all the benefits they get they argue that we owe them and should be grateful to them and try and tell them to go p!ss off and go live in the jungle and see how well they can do for themselves and there is no way you can get rid of them. Make no mistake, despite what the wealthy commercial elite say about how special they are, if you kick them out tomorrow there will be another wealthy elite replacing them in a blink of an eye. Its very little to do with them and the people who replace them and much more to do with circumstance and being at the right place at the right time. Sure we have different skills but without our skills they would not enjoy anywhere near the opulent life they enjoy today and its time they stopped overrating their skills and paying the true value for ours.  Its like the steering wheel of a car saying, "If it wasn't for me you would not have a car" Yeah right, and what about the engine? Time the rich stopped talking themselves up to avoid paying their dues, like we all have to. 

ImSpartacus2 wrote on May 4^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:


Fool you say?  It's not me that eats up all that Buffett swill mate, give the mirror a hard squizz. 

Your still cutoff! 

Slaves like Denizen Tap refuse to be liberated.