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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS Reply #405 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 7:36pm lee wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 6:28pm: You mean like AGW is defined while climate change isn't? yes, buddy: whatever floats daddykins boat
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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #406 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 7:37pm

Ajax wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 6:42pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:22pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:05pm:

Chimp,
Quote:

you confuse your stinkin' ass with your mouth you caramelised slab of putrid wart hog excrement.

How can Chimp get away with that?

I was banned once for 1% of that. Shocked

My abuse is creative, jovial and spiritual in nature....

that's why we are such close friends Jethro.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/30/article-0-0F4C9D9300000578-208_472x472...

But it shows different rules for banning for different monkeys.

were you really banned jethro?

That is appalling - your hard work in here is first class mate....

I will tell you what I will I do for you mate...

I will sacrifice myself for 1 month. I will self impose a 1 month ban just to balance the books.

See you in a month mate - keep the boat rocking mate while I am gone

...see ya in a month

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goodbye and good riddance

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hardcore child hater, lol: have you got a mcmansion or something? Grin

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #407 - Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 6:01pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 7:37pm:

Ajax wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 6:42pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:22pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:05pm:

Chimp,
Quote:

you confuse your stinkin' ass with your mouth you caramelised slab of putrid wart hog excrement.

How can Chimp get away with that?

I was banned once for 1% of that. Shocked

My abuse is creative, jovial and spiritual in nature....

that's why we are such close friends Jethro.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/30/article-0-0F4C9D9300000578-208_472x472...

But it shows different rules for banning for different monkeys.

were you really banned jethro?

That is appalling - your hard work in here is first class mate....

I will tell you what I will I do for you mate...

I will sacrifice myself for 1 month. I will self impose a 1 month ban just to balance the books.

See you in a month mate - keep the boat rocking mate while I am gone

...see ya in a month

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsf0ly7MSO1qargfho1_500.jpg

goodbye and good riddance

http://i57.tinypic.com/2hxx6gz.png

hardcore child hater, lol: have you got a mcmansion or something? Grin

WTF are you talking about....?

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #408 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 12:53am

rabbitoh08 wrote on May 28^th, 2015 at 12:14pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:55pm:

rabbitoh08 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

lee wrote on May 26^th, 2015 at 11:19am:

John_Taverner wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 8:10pm:

That course is designed to teach people how to deal with all the climate denialist nonsense such as the crap that ends up on these threads

Oh dear, John has spit the dummy. He now repeats the "climate denialist" mantra.

Are you currently studying under John Cook, Climate Communicator?

Can you post a link to where someone, on these pages, has denied that climate changes?

the hysterics are only interested in blind adherence to a dogma, not science or fact.

Heh!!!! Fact!!!! Coming from you!!!! That is funny.

Remember here when you denied that 2014 has been found to have been the hottest year on record:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431874578/51#51

Instead, you claimed:
the actual results say opposite.

You were asked numerous times to show us these "actual results" that say the opposite.

But you can't. You made it up.
There are no "actual results" that say the opposite.
You were simply caught red-handed telling a lie.

A proven liar like you saying to somebody else: "the hysterics are only interested in blind adherence to a dogma, not science or fact"!!!

Comedy gold!

we've already done this dance, rabbit-droppings. Your problem is that your blind adherence precludes you from understanding a position not to your liking.

Yes. You are still dancing.

It is a simple question isn't it?

Remember - you denied that 2014 has been found to have been the hottest year on record:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431874578/51#51
Instead, you claimed:
the actual results say opposite.

Why can't you simply show us these "actual results that say "the opposite".

Just post a link. It is simple.

Cut and paste
ctrl-c/ctrl-v

Why can't you do it?

It is because you were telling a lie, isn't it.

Don't you think you should grow up and apologise for telling lies?

Longweekend. you are caught telling a lie - do you have nothing to say for yourself?

Remember - you denied that 2014 has been found to have been the hottest year on record:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431874578/51#51
Instead, you claimed:
the actual results say opposite.

Why can't you simply show us these "actual results that say "the opposite".

Why do you always run away when you are caught telling lies?

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #409 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 11:17am

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 12:53am:

the actual results say opposite.

You mean like NASA and NOAA claimed the "hottest year evah", with error bars you could drive a truck through?

'26 January 2015 - Provisional full-year global mean temperature figures show 2014 was one of the warmest years in a record dating back to 1850.

The HadCRUT4 dataset (compiled by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit) shows last year was 0.56C (±0.1C*) above the long-term (1961-1990) average.

Nominally this ranks 2014 as the joint warmest year in the record, tied with 2010, but the uncertainty ranges mean it's not possible to definitively say which of several recent years was the warmest.'

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/release/archive/2015/2014-global-temperature

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Reply #410 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:13pm

lee wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 11:17am:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 12:53am:

the actual results say opposite.

You mean like NASA and NOAA claimed the "hottest year evah", with error bars you could drive a truck through?

'26 January 2015 - Provisional full-year global mean temperature figures show 2014 was one of the warmest years in a record dating back to 1850.

The HadCRUT4 dataset (compiled by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit) shows last year was 0.56C (±0.1C*) above the long-term (1961-1990) average.

Nominally this ranks 2014 as the joint warmest year in the record, tied with 2010, but the uncertainty ranges mean it's not possible to definitively say which of several recent years was the warmest.'

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/release/archive/2015/2014-global-temperature

The easiest way to reduce the error is to take the mean of two or three consecutive years. By doing this, it's easy to show a rising trend.

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #411 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:45pm

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:13pm:

The easiest way to reduce the error is to take the mean of two or three consecutive years. By doing this, it's easy to show a rising trend.

But I thought climate was longer than that, 2-3 years was merely weather.

However, to the main point, if a temperature is equalled by another year, how can it be the "hottest year evah"?

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Reply #412 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 5:30pm

lee wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:45pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:13pm:

The easiest way to reduce the error is to take the mean of two or three consecutive years. By doing this, it's easy to show a rising trend.

But I thought climate was longer than that, 2-3 years was merely weather.

However, to the main point, if a temperature is equalled by another year, how can it be the "hottest year evah"?

I knew I shouldn't have posted that. I should have known that you wouldn't understand even something so basic.

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Reply #413 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 6:45pm

lee wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 11:17am:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 12:53am:

the actual results say opposite.

You mean like NASA and NOAA claimed the "hottest year evah", with error bars you could drive a truck through?

'26 January 2015 - Provisional full-year global mean temperature figures show 2014 was one of the warmest years in a record dating back to 1850.

The HadCRUT4 dataset (compiled by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit) shows last year was 0.56C (±0.1C*) above the long-term (1961-1990) average.

Nominally this ranks 2014 as the joint warmest year in the record, tied with 2010, but the uncertainty ranges mean it's not possible to definitively say which of several recent years was the warmest.'

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/release/archive/2015/2014-global-temperature

All this means lee agrees with LOMBORG that fossil fuels should be allowed to warm our kids earth by 3 degrees instead of 2 Wink

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Reply #415 - Jun 4^th, 2015 at 8:05pm

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 12:53am:

Longweekend. you are caught telling a lie - do you have nothing to say for yourself?

Remember - you denied that 2014 has been found to have been the hottest year on record:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431874578/51#51
Instead, you claimed:
the actual results say opposite.

Why can't you simply show us these "actual results that say "the opposite".

Why do you always run away when you are caught telling lies?

Why do you always run away when you are caught telling lies?

I think it is only that he gets a bit confused between what he would like to be true and what is actually factual.

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Reply #416 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 12:35am

lee wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 7:59pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 4:13pm:

The easiest way to reduce the error is to take the mean of two or three consecutive years

Unless the errors are all high or all low, then the mean is still wrong and not less.

Some nice logic, ...but to what end does it serve?? Grin

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Reply #417 - Jun 5^th, 2015 at 12:37am

Dnarever wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 8:05pm:

rabbitoh08 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 12:53am:

Longweekend. you are caught telling a lie - do you have nothing to say for yourself?

Remember - you denied that 2014 has been found to have been the hottest year on record:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431874578/51#51
Instead, you claimed:
the actual results say opposite.

Why can't you simply show us these "actual results that say "the opposite".

Why do you always run away when you are caught telling lies?

Why do you always run away when you are caught telling lies?

I think it is only that he gets a bit confused between what he would like to be true and what is actually factual.

amatuer attempt at the concept of indirect argument Cheesy

hopefully it pays well Roll Eyes

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Reply #418 - Jun 15^th, 2015 at 12:50pm

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 10:32am:

Soren wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:38am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Do clouds cool or warm the earth? Wink

How much extra cloud is generated by 0.0192% of the atmosphere that is human CO2??

That question assumes that increased CO2 leads to an increase in cloud cover. Maybe it does.

What is your understanding?
What makes you think that an increase in CO2 leads to an increase in cloud cover?
Are all clouds the same?
What type of clouds would result in a net energy loss to space?
What type of clouds would result in a net energy gain?
What type of clouds would increase or decrease as a result of increased CO2?
Are clouds the biggest factor or even a major factor in Global warming?

As you see, you may be asking a question that is not relevant.

In the light of your tenuous grasp of the basic principles involved, what would your response be to

A. An increase in cloud cover of 2%?
B. A decrease in cloud cover of 2%?

One more question - Your figure of 0.0192% is based on what atmospheric CO2 level in ppm(v) ?

Frankly, your question shows that you don't have a clue.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1429976461/282#282

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Reply #419 - Jun 15^th, 2015 at 6:12pm

Soren wrote on Jun 15^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

John_Taverner wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 10:32am:

Soren wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:38am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Do clouds cool or warm the earth? Wink

How much extra cloud is generated by 0.0192% of the atmosphere that is human CO2??

That question assumes that increased CO2 leads to an increase in cloud cover. Maybe it does.

What is your understanding?
What makes you think that an increase in CO2 leads to an increase in cloud cover?
Are all clouds the same?
What type of clouds would result in a net energy loss to space?
What type of clouds would result in a net energy gain?
What type of clouds would increase or decrease as a result of increased CO2?
Are clouds the biggest factor or even a major factor in Global warming?

As you see, you may be asking a question that is not relevant.

In the light of your tenuous grasp of the basic principles involved, what would your response be to

A. An increase in cloud cover of 2%?
B. A decrease in cloud cover of 2%?

One more question - Your figure of 0.0192% is based on what atmospheric CO2 level in ppm(v) ?

Frankly, your question shows that you don't have a clue.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1429976461/282#282

It's around 40% of the total atmospheric CO2. I think you're taking annual carbon emissions and not converting to CO2 or something like that. Let me see if I can work out what you're doing.

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