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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #390 - May 31^st, 2015 at 3:24pm

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:22pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:05pm:

Chimp,
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you confuse your stinkin' ass with your mouth you caramelised slab of putrid wart hog excrement.

How can Chimp get away with that?

I was banned once for 1% of that. Shocked

My abuse is creative, jovial and spiritual in nature....

that's why we are such close friends Jethro.

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But it shows different rules for banning for different monkeys.

were you really banned jethro?

That is appalling - your hard work in here is first class mate....

I will tell you what I will I do for you mate...

I will sacrifice myself for 1 month. I will self impose a 1 month ban just to balance the books.

See you in a month mate - keep the boat rocking mate while I am gone

...see ya in a month

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121259 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS Reply #391 - May 31^st, 2015 at 6:24pm Don't go Chimp - you are always good for comic relief.
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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #392 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 2:09am

Soren wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 1:34pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:58am:

Soren wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:38am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Do clouds cool or warm the earth? Wink

How much extra cloud is generated by 0.0192% of the atmosphere that is human CO2??

It is clear how much hatred you have for children Soren

But why do you hate certain "people" Soren?

Were you raised that way?

Sooooo - how much extra cloud is generated by 0.0192% of the atmosphere that is human CO2??

No one knows.

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #393 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 2:25am

Ajax wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Do clouds cool or warm the earth? Wink

You're such a conniving little piece of sh!t aren't you worm breath.

Why does it have to be one or the other why can't clouds do both....???

You're not smart chump, you're just an AGW religious zealot that preaches the algorian school of climatology on this forum.

I think its you that should say sorry to all on here.

as far as I know the jury is still out on clouds... if more clouds are created then they will reflect sunlight yet water vapour needs to rise to create clouds and this all depends on the concept of 'flotation' which itself may run into complicated behaviour. Warm air doesn't actually rise, cold air sinks and the energised and more separated air(aka less 'dense' air) allows the colder less energised air(more 'dense' air) to sink through it resulting in the warmer, energised and separated air 'floating' on top.

Bottomline: iff (note the double 'f') more clouds are formed it would act as a negative feedback mechanism meaning our oceans won't boil away- what happened on Venus can't happen here as there are too many negative feedback mechanisms available to stop that from happening but what is possible is still catastrophic if enough CO2 in mechanically injected into the system.

That's the point: water is in a cycle whereas CO2 is being mechanically injected into the system.

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #394 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 7:55am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 2:25am:

Ajax wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Do clouds cool or warm the earth? Wink

You're such a conniving little piece of sh!t aren't you worm breath.

Why does it have to be one or the other why can't clouds do both....???

You're not smart chump, you're just an AGW religious zealot that preaches the algorian school of climatology on this forum.

I think its you that should say sorry to all on here.

as far as I know the jury is still out on clouds... if more clouds are created then they will reflect sunlight yet water vapour needs to rise to create clouds and this all depends on the concept of 'flotation' which itself may run into complicated behaviour. Warm air doesn't actually rise, cold air sinks and the energised and more separated air(aka less 'dense' air) allows the colder less energised air(more 'dense' air) to sink through it resulting in the warmer, energised and separated air 'floating' on top.

Bottomline: iff (note the double 'f') more clouds are formed it would act as a negative feedback mechanism meaning our oceans won't boil away- what happened on Venus can't happen here as there are too many negative feedback mechanisms available to stop that from happening but what is possible is still catastrophic if enough CO2 in mechanically injected into the system.

That's the point: water is in a cycle whereas CO2 is being mechanically injected into the system.

Well if these boffins can't work out the clouds they definitely cannot work out a miniscule trace gas called carbon dioxide.

Snouts out of troughs now. Give us tax payers our money back you idiot fraudsters.

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #395 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 10:26am

Rider wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 7:55am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 2:25am:

Ajax wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Do clouds cool or warm the earth? Wink

You're such a conniving little piece of sh!t aren't you worm breath.

Why does it have to be one or the other why can't clouds do both....???

You're not smart chump, you're just an AGW religious zealot that preaches the algorian school of climatology on this forum.

I think its you that should say sorry to all on here.

as far as I know the jury is still out on clouds... if more clouds are created then they will reflect sunlight yet water vapour needs to rise to create clouds and this all depends on the concept of 'flotation' which itself may run into complicated behaviour. Warm air doesn't actually rise, cold air sinks and the energised and more separated air(aka less 'dense' air) allows the colder less energised air(more 'dense' air) to sink through it resulting in the warmer, energised and separated air 'floating' on top.

Bottomline: iff (note the double 'f') more clouds are formed it would act as a negative feedback mechanism meaning our oceans won't boil away- what happened on Venus can't happen here as there are too many negative feedback mechanisms available to stop that from happening but what is possible is still catastrophic if enough CO2 in mechanically injected into the system.

That's the point: water is in a cycle whereas CO2 is being mechanically injected into the system.

Well if these boffins can't work out the clouds they definitely cannot work out a miniscule trace gas called carbon dioxide.

Snouts out of troughs now. Give us tax payers our money back you idiot fraudsters.

The snouts in the trough are all of using our kids environment as a toilet.

IT'S CALLED INTERGENERATIONAL THEFT!!

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #396 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 10:32am

Soren wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 11:38am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 30^th, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Do clouds cool or warm the earth? Wink

How much extra cloud is generated by 0.0192% of the atmosphere that is human CO2??

That question assumes that increased CO2 leads to an increase in cloud cover. Maybe it does.

What is your understanding?
What makes you think that an increase in CO2 leads to an increase in cloud cover?
Are all clouds the same?
What type of clouds would result in a net energy loss to space?
What type of clouds would result in a net energy gain?
What type of clouds would increase or decrease as a result of increased CO2?
Are clouds the biggest factor or even a major factor in Global warming?

As you see, you may be asking a question that is not relevant.

In the light of your tenuous grasp of the basic principles involved, what would your response be to

A. An increase in cloud cover of 2%?
B. A decrease in cloud cover of 2%?

One more question - Your figure of 0.0192% is based on what atmospheric CO2 level in ppm(v) ?

Frankly, your question shows that you don't have a clue.

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #397 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 11:36am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 2:25am:

Bottomline: iff (note the double 'f') more clouds are formed it would act as a negative feedback mechanism

IPCC says net effect of clouds is likely positive.

But the bottomline is no one; including the IPCC has a clue.

And AGW relies on net feedback of clouds being positive.

So JT can add the IPCC to those who don't have a clue.

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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #398 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 11:57am

lee wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 11:36am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 2:25am:

Bottomline: iff (note the double 'f') more clouds are formed it would act as a negative feedback mechanism

IPCC says net effect of clouds is likely positive.

But the bottomline is no one; including the IPCC has a clue.

And AGW relies on net feedback of clouds being positive.

So JT can add the IPCC to those who don't have a clue.

It's all probablity... the reason the IPCC reports are conservative is because all nations involved have to agree what goes into the reports yet the truth remains that the NH is warmer than the SH due to the heat pump called the thermohaline cycle.

If clouds provide a positive or a negative feedback the NH still remains warmer than the SH else you are talking about a shutdown of the heat pump itself. I'm starting to think you don't understand what a negative feedback mechanism is.... it dampens a positive feedback mechanism but doesn't turn the ship to completely opposite-ville.

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Reply #399 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 12:51pm

Yeah Heat Pump. PDO, ENSO, El Nino.

Who the hell says a negative feedback only dampens a positive feedback?

It's either negative or positive, less negative, or less positive, more negative or more positive. Unless of course you wave wandered off into the realm of multiple positive, negative feedbacks; and then there is so much uncertainty.

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Reply #400 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 12:58pm

lee wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 12:51pm:

Yeah Heat Pump. PDO, ENSO, El Nino.

Who the hell says a negative feedback only dampens a positive feedback?

It's either negative or positive, less negative, or less positive, more negative or more positive. Unless of course you wave wandered off into the realm of multiple positive, negative feedbacks; and then there is so much uncertainty.

The thing is lee: you have no respect for the definitions of science known as nomenclature making you the shite breathing idiot I have consistently pointed you out as...

Consensus starts with nomenclature: as I have been saying for quite along time now

Don't cry buddy: just because you think fossil fuels should be allowed to warm the future earth by 3 degrees instead of 2 so you can please your fossil fueled masters for 1/2 a second doesn't mean you're the devil... Roll Eyes

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21376 Gender:	Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS Reply #401 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 2:19pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 12:58pm: Consensus starts with nomenclature: Ahh, the consensus argument.
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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #402 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 6:10pm

lee wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 2:19pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 12:58pm:

Consensus starts with nomenclature:

Ahh, the consensus argument.

ahh, lee has never heard of the nomenclature argument Wink

Face it lee: everyone watches to see me put it in your face oh so consistently like that(ooh gotcha hot stuffikins yehhhhh!!)....

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21376 Gender:	Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS Reply #403 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 6:28pm You mean like AGW is defined while climate change isn't?
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Re: Abbott and Liberal Party were correct. AGW BS
Reply #404 - Jun 2^nd, 2015 at 6:42pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:22pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 31^st, 2015 at 3:05pm:

Chimp,
Quote:

you confuse your stinkin' ass with your mouth you caramelised slab of putrid wart hog excrement.

How can Chimp get away with that?

I was banned once for 1% of that. Shocked

My abuse is creative, jovial and spiritual in nature....

that's why we are such close friends Jethro.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/30/article-0-0F4C9D9300000578-208_472x472...

But it shows different rules for banning for different monkeys.

were you really banned jethro?

That is appalling - your hard work in here is first class mate....

I will tell you what I will I do for you mate...

I will sacrifice myself for 1 month. I will self impose a 1 month ban just to balance the books.

See you in a month mate - keep the boat rocking mate while I am gone

...see ya in a month

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goodbye and good riddance

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