Bobby. wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:


You're the ice age bozo. I won't waste too much time on you, but you seriously need to go back to school.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 12:37am:


Correct, every time in the past that one of the greenhouse gasses were measured to be high the event correlated to a warm period.

Co2 has anything to do with the recent warming or was even mostly caused by human industry?


CO2 levels were fairly constant for many centuries, From the industrial revolution till today we have been pumping billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere.

Do you really think that increasing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere coinciding with us pumping billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere is just a crazy coincidence.

Conclusion is that we know that increasing CO2 in the atmosphere will cause temperature increases as it has every other time in the past  and we know that CO2 levels are increasing in the atmosphere and have been ever since we started pumping more and more CO2 into the atmosphere (hardly a surprise finding).

People arguing that pumping more of something in will not increase the volume are literally arguing that 2 + 2 = 2.

John_Taverner wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 8:46am:

So is a wavelength saturation, but what the activist climate junky relies on, are the unknowns. They rely on feedbacks. Co2 alone is not an issue.

So no, the way you talk of confidence is utter crap.

Dnarever wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

I think you are getting mixed up with a planet not having an atmosphere similar to earth.

Sure, put a plastic bag over your head without resupply of oxygen and you would be right, although right for what argument, only you know.

Bobby. wrote on May 7^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:


Water Vapor is the greenhouse effect: CO2 is a major GHG that drives it!

Solubility in water decreases with increasing temperature so when the planets pull the earth into a warm orbit CO2 outgasses and drives more water vapour into the air sustaining an enhanced greenhouse effect in a what's known as a positive feedback loop.

When the planets pull the earth back into a cold orbit the CO2 returns to the ocean because solubility in water has increased with the decreasing temperature and another positive feedback loop in the oppositie direction results in a sustained and decreasing greehouse effect.

Shall we do another billion word circle jerk?? (You really haven't done much reading yourself have ya buddy  ..or are you just pretending and playing pause button politics so industry can retool for the new paradigm      )

It's called a complex relationship but you know all that and pretend you don't because you hate the kids that much 

Bobby. wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:16am:


Did you examine ALL the evidence on whether smoking tobacco causes illnesses in Humans such as cancer before you arrived at your wise opinions.

There was lots of EVIDENCE which disputed the link between smoking tabacco and detrimental health effects.

Were you skeptical Jethro?

Did you watch a lot of Videos from You Tube?

Did you pay close attention to the spin doctors paid by the tobacco corporations?

Dnarever wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:21am:


C-14 is produced from C-12 in the biosphere by cosmic radiation. Fossil fuels have been buried shielded from cosmic radiation long enough to have all their C-14 decayed to C-12

if you look at a graph of change in C-14 over time, you will see that there is a decrease in the fraction of C-14 (relative to C-12) and this means that much of the CO2 added to the earths atmosphere is made up of Carbon which is depleted of the C-14 isotope

So, this is very strong evidence that the increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration is due to the combustion of fossil fuels.

This coincidence that you speak of, has left a very distinct isotopic marker which can be measured

there is no doubt that the increase in atmospheric CO2 levels are human generated (fossil fuel combustion and deforestation)

(in any case, a simple mass balance will tell you how much CO2 has been produced by human activities over the past century or so, and this CO2 has gone somewhere hasnt it folks)