Soren wrote on May 7
th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
rabbitoh08 wrote on May 7
th, 2015 at 5:50pm:
Soren wrote on May 7
th, 2015 at 3:42pm:
Well, where is the evidence that anthropogenic greenhouse gases cause climate change (and where is the evidence of abnormal climate change)? That article from 2006 concludes:
4. CONCLUSIONS
Measurements of the downward radiative flux have been made for several important greenhouse gases. At mid-latitudes in summer as compared to winter, our measurements show that the downward surface flux from H2O has doubled to 200 W/m2. The water increase causes a reduction of the fluxes from the other greenhouse gases. These measurements show that the greenhouse effect from trace gases in the atmosphere is real and adds significantly to the radiative burden of the atmosphere. The greenhouse radiation has increased by approximately 3.52 W/m2 since pre-industrial times.
This compares favorably with a modeled prediction of 2.55 W/m2. Measurements such as these can provide a means by which to verify the predictions made by global warming models (Puckrin et al; 2004).
They got their data from 1986 and 990:
The data is based on models by Dickinson and Cicerone (1986) and those which are included in the IPCC report (IPCC, 1990). Although there are extensive model calculations of radiative forcing in the literature, there are few experimental measurements of the greenhouse radiation which is responsible for global warming. In what follows, measurements of the surface greenhouse radiation are described and compared with the modelled estimates of radiative forcing.
This forcing caper didn't quite work out. What a pity that these models and speculations and measurements could not predict the pause in warming. SO what value can you put on all their other predictions, also unfuifilled so far?
WTF are you on about?
You asked for evidence that human generated Co2 is responsible for whatever is happening to the climate - you were shown it. Measured downward radiation is shown to be increasing as atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations increase.
it is evident that the actual greenhouse radiation has increased by over 3.5 W/m2 since pre-industrial times, or by about 2.3% of the total greenhouse radiation. And WTF is this "pause in warming" you mention?
The ongoing decline of the cryosphere and sea-level rise doesn't indicate any "pause in warming".
It's all BS.
No. It isn't
Soren wrote on May 7
th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
Human contribute 2.3 % of total KNOWN greenhouse radiation.
(how much CO2 do the under-sear volcanos produce? The ones we never know about, never measure)
And that 2.3% tail wags the entire climate dog.
Human activities have increased the atmospheric concentration of CO2 by 40% over the past 200 or so years.
This is a significant change to the gas that regulates the climate of the planet
Soren wrote on May 7
th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
There is no sea level rising due to CO2.
No - there is sea level rising because of global warming.
the global warming is occurring because of CO2.
And the sea level rise is quite significant
Soren wrote on May 7
th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
AGW is nonsense.
No. It isn't.
If it were - many scientists would have published evidence by now that it was nonsense - and thereby won themselves Nobel Prizes and become fabulously rich and famous.
This hasn't happened, has it.
No - your whole "AGW is nonsense" mantra is based on the ludicrous belief that there is some massive, evil conspiracy amongst all the world's scientists - and only you and Andrew Bolt know the REAL truth.
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