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Reply #45 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:25pm

|dev|null wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 10:59pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:45pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:19pm:

Islam offers no improvement on any aspect of Australian society, nor of Western civilisation in general. In every aspect, Islam is a giant leap backwards, into tribal primitivism, into superstitious repression, into slavish submission to voluptuous, base urges.

Couldn't agree more.

Which is why I choose not to become a Muslim.

Why do you choose to be frightened of Islam?

Why don't you just ignore it, as I do?

Because you live in Tasmania and WA way from all the Islamic problems in the eastern states.

Why are you afraid of Muslims?

They murder on a large scale in the name of their particular brand of Islam.

Ah, so there are different brands of Islam, Soren? Roll Eyes

Yes, and we are witnessing their civil war in Iraq and Syria, Yemen and Labia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Lebanon etc.

So, while you recognise that Islam is not monolithic and that there are different types of Islam, why do you keep talking as if the reverse was true? Grin

Rich diversity of sectarian violence.

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Reply #46 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:34pm

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 10:59pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:45pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:19pm:

Islam offers no improvement on any aspect of Australian society, nor of Western civilisation in general. In every aspect, Islam is a giant leap backwards, into tribal primitivism, into superstitious repression, into slavish submission to voluptuous, base urges.

Couldn't agree more.

Which is why I choose not to become a Muslim.

Why do you choose to be frightened of Islam?

Why don't you just ignore it, as I do?

Because you live in Tasmania and WA way from all the Islamic problems in the eastern states.

Why are you afraid of Muslims?

They murder on a large scale in the name of their particular brand of Islam.

Ah, so there are different brands of Islam, Soren? Roll Eyes

Yes, and we are witnessing their civil war in Iraq and Syria, Yemen and Labia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Lebanon etc.

So, while you recognise that Islam is not monolithic and that there are different types of Islam, why do you keep talking as if the reverse was true? Grin

Rich diversity of sectarian violence.

Still doesn't explain why you act as if Islam was monolithic and all Muslims think and act the same Soren. Grin

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Reply #47 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:46pm

|dev|null wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 2:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 10:59pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 10:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:

Happy Lucky wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:45pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 6^th, 2015 at 9:19pm:

Islam offers no improvement on any aspect of Australian society, nor of Western civilisation in general. In every aspect, Islam is a giant leap backwards, into tribal primitivism, into superstitious repression, into slavish submission to voluptuous, base urges.

Couldn't agree more.

Which is why I choose not to become a Muslim.

Why do you choose to be frightened of Islam?

Why don't you just ignore it, as I do?

Because you live in Tasmania and WA way from all the Islamic problems in the eastern states.

Why are you afraid of Muslims?

They murder on a large scale in the name of their particular brand of Islam.

Ah, so there are different brands of Islam, Soren? Roll Eyes

Yes, and we are witnessing their civil war in Iraq and Syria, Yemen and Labia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Lebanon etc.

So, while you recognise that Islam is not monolithic and that there are different types of Islam, why do you keep talking as if the reverse was true? Grin

Rich diversity of sectarian violence.

Still doesn't explain why you act as if Islam was monolithic and all Muslims think and act the same Soren. Grin

I have never said anything of the sort, no matter how often you repeat this nonsense, Hot Air.

I said that the one thing that links all Islamic terrorism is... er.... Islam. But even such a plain truth is now 'Islamophobic' because neither Islam nor those who follow it and believe it (Muslims - gosh! can I say that?) are allowed to be criticised without the idiots like you Brain bandying 'Islamophobia' about.

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Reply #49 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

I said that the one thing that links all Islamic terrorism is... er.... Islam.

Genius.

That's right up there with "All Muslims are Muslims".

But even such a plain truth is now 'Islamophobic' because neither Islam nor those who follow it and believe it (Muslims - gosh! can I say that?) are allowed to be criticised without the idiots like you, Brain and Hot Air bandying 'Islamophobia' about.

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Reply #50 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:52pm

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

I said that the one thing that links all Islamic terrorism is... er.... Islam.

Genius.

That's right up there with "All Muslims are Muslims".

But even such a plain truth is now 'Islamophobic' ...

Nope.

Nobody is saying that is Islamophobic.

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Reply #51 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

I said that the one thing that links all Islamic terrorism is... er.... Islam.

Genius.

That's right up there with "All Muslims are Muslims".

But even such a plain truth is now 'Islamophobic' ...

Nope.

Nobody is saying that is Islamophobic.

Really?? How fascinating.

Still, neither Islam nor those who follow it and believe it (Muslims - gosh! can I say that?) are allowed to be criticised without the idiots like you, Brain and Hot Air bandying 'Islamophobia' about.

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Reply #52 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:44pm

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

I said that the one thing that links all Islamic terrorism is... er.... Islam.

Genius.

That's right up there with "All Muslims are Muslims".

But even such a plain truth is now 'Islamophobic' ...

Nope.

Nobody is saying that is Islamophobic.

Really?? How fascinating.

Still, neither Islam nor those who follow it and believe it (Muslims - gosh! can I say that?)

That depends who you believe, old boy. Y's theory is a Moslem is a Moslem, but we're yet to reach a consensus on that.

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Reply #53 - Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:44pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:44pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

I said that the one thing that links all Islamic terrorism is... er.... Islam.

Genius.

That's right up there with "All Muslims are Muslims".

But even such a plain truth is now 'Islamophobic' ...

Nope.

Nobody is saying that is Islamophobic.

Really?? How fascinating.

Still, neither Islam nor those who follow it and believe it (Muslims - gosh! can I say that?)

That depends who you believe, old boy. Y's theory is a Moslem is a Moslem, but we're yet to reach a consensus on that.

When it comes to Islam and Muslims, there is always, ALWAYS something to tiptoe around. So sensitive - yet so murderous.

Rich tapestry, innit? You'd call it rainbow if the inverts - Allah sez kill 'em all - haven't TMed that particular shorthand for lovely diversity.

I want to see when the wahabbis lie down with the LGTBI cadres, don't you, like the lion with the lamb - judging from the militancy of the lady boys, though, the wahabbis may be the lambs in this particular tableau.

Very, VERY rich tapestry.

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Reply #54 - Apr 9^th, 2015 at 9:32am

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 7:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:44pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

I said that the one thing that links all Islamic terrorism is... er.... Islam.

Genius.

That's right up there with "All Muslims are Muslims".

But even such a plain truth is now 'Islamophobic' ...

Nope.

Nobody is saying that is Islamophobic.

Really?? How fascinating.

Still, neither Islam nor those who follow it and believe it (Muslims - gosh! can I say that?)

That depends who you believe, old boy. Y's theory is a Moslem is a Moslem, but we're yet to reach a consensus on that.

When it comes to Islam and Muslims, there is always, ALWAYS something to tiptoe around. So sensitive - yet so murderous.

Rich tapestry, innit? You'd call it rainbow if the inverts - Allah sez kill 'em all - haven't TMed that particular shorthand for lovely diversity.

I want to see when the wahabbis lie down with the LGTBI cadres, don't you, like the lion with the lamb - judging from the militancy of the lady boys, though, the wahabbis may be the lambs in this particular tableau.

Very, VERY rich tapestry.

A rich tapestry indeed. That Wahabi bed is going to be pretty full, old boy. The Saudis already have Uncle and Mother in there.

It’s such a rich tapestry, you’re happy to leave Uncle’s threads concealled. You face a bit of a dillema here, old chap. Your preferred carpet-bombing strategy is at odds with Uncle’s support of the most extreme Islamicist regime on the planet. What to do?

Avoiding questions on Uncle’s involvement in quashing demokracy in the Middle East - Iran, Egypt, the gulf states - is a good start. It covers the cognitive dissonance so central to your thinking.

Pretending the Wahabists got there on their own - with no help from Uncle and Mother - is another. It allows you to offer glib, shallow cliches on complex foreign policy issues. Of course you don’t read Robert Fisk.

You prefer Pride and Prejudice.

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Reply #55 - Apr 9^th, 2015 at 10:11am

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Pretending the Wahabists got there on their own - with no help from Uncle and Mother - is another. It allows you to offer glib, shallow cliches on complex foreign policy issues. Of course you don’t read Robert Fisk.

That's right, PB, they never do anything off their own bat, everything evil they do, is because of the West.
If only we left them alone - but leaving them alone must not mean leaving them alone OVER THERE, barring them from coming OVER HERE. Oh no. We must let them come here and we mustn't expect THEM to leave US alone. We must leave them to do as they please, wherever they please, anything else is oppressive and a 'complex foreign policy issue only Fisky can navigate successfully.

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Reply #56 - Apr 9^th, 2015 at 10:25am

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 6:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 5:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:48pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

I said that the one thing that links all Islamic terrorism is... er.... Islam.

Genius.

That's right up there with "All Muslims are Muslims".

But even such a plain truth is now 'Islamophobic' ...

Nope.

Nobody is saying that is Islamophobic.

Really??

Yes, really.

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Reply #57 - Apr 9^th, 2015 at 11:01am

Soren wrote on Apr 8^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

I have never said anything of the sort, no matter how often you repeat this nonsense, Hot Air.

Yet you keep saying it and implying it. Muslims are not members of the Borg Soren. Grin

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I said that the one thing that links all Islamic terrorism is... er.... Islam. But even such a plain truth is now 'Islamophobic' because neither Islam nor those who follow it and believe it (Muslims - gosh! can I say that?) are allowed to be criticised without the idiots like you Brain bandying 'Islamophobia' about.

Nope, no Islamophobia there at all, your Honour! Grin

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Reply #58 - Apr 9^th, 2015 at 11:06am

Soren wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Pretending the Wahabists got there on their own - with no help from Uncle and Mother - is another. It allows you to offer glib, shallow cliches on complex foreign policy issues. Of course you don’t read Robert Fisk.

That's right, PB, they never do anything off their own bat, everything evil they do, is because of the West.
If only we left them alone - but leaving them alone must not mean leaving them alone OVER THERE, barring them from coming OVER HERE. Oh no. We must let them come here and we mustn't expect THEM to leave US alone. We must leave them to do as they please, wherever they please, anything else is oppressive and a 'complex foreign policy issue only Fisky can navigate successfully.

Nope, no Islamophobia there, your Honour! Grin

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Reply #59 - Apr 9^th, 2015 at 11:58am

Soren wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Pretending the Wahabists got there on their own - with no help from Uncle and Mother - is another. It allows you to offer glib, shallow cliches on complex foreign policy issues. Of course you don’t read Robert Fisk.

That's right, PB, they never do anything off their own bat, everything evil they do, is because of the West.
If only we left them alone - but leaving them alone must not mean leaving them alone OVER THERE, barring them from coming OVER HERE. Oh no. We must let them come here and we mustn't expect THEM to leave US alone. We must leave them to do as they please, wherever they please, anything else is oppressive and a 'complex foreign policy issue only Fisky can navigate successfully.

Leave them alone? Good heavens, we couldn't possibly do that. We need to export demokracy, remember? Just look at Iraq today. No Saddam, and no WMDs.

The world is a much safer place, no?

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