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Re: solution to halal scam
Reply #90 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:30pm

|dev|null wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:17pm:

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

i dont want to get rid of it, I want the choice. You know, free country, democracy and all that inconsequential stuff.

You do have a choice - either you purchase the item that is Halal or you don't. No one is forcing you to have a Halal item.

I should have the same right to eat vegemite as anyone else, you dont even realise you are arguing for an erosion of civil rights.

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Reply #91 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:32pm

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

Wut? How can an extra layer of certification cost "nothing"? More to the point, how can something make billions of dollars, yet cost nothing?

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Reply #92 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:36pm

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:17pm:

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

i dont want to get rid of it, I want the choice. You know, free country, democracy and all that inconsequential stuff.

You do have a choice - either you purchase the item that is Halal or you don't. No one is forcing you to have a Halal item.

I should have the same right to eat vegemite as anyone else, you dont even realise you are arguing for an erosion of civil rights.

How so? I see your argument as fatous and Islamophobic. Who cares if a yeast extract is OK for Muslims to eat or not? Grin

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Reply #93 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:37pm

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Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

Wut? How can an extra layer of certification cost "nothing"? More to the point, how can something make billions of dollars, yet cost nothing?

Ever hear of "economies of scale"? Grin

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Reply #94 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:48pm

|dev|null wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:37pm:

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:32pm:

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

Wut? How can an extra layer of certification cost "nothing"? More to the point, how can something make billions of dollars, yet cost nothing?

Ever hear of "economies of scale"? Grin

Yep.

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Reply #96 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:30pm

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:17pm:

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

i dont want to get rid of it, I want the choice. You know, free country, democracy and all that inconsequential stuff.

You do have a choice - either you purchase the item that is Halal or you don't. No one is forcing you to have a Halal item.

I should have the same right to eat vegemite as anyone else, you dont even realise you are arguing for an erosion of civil rights.

Are you serious

You do have that right, however you are exercising your right not to eat it. Vegemite hasn't changed their recipe to suit muslims, all they've done is paid to show their product does not contain things muslims can't eat. Just like a company will pay for a heart foundation tick or a made in Australia logo. It makes good business sense, as is their right. You know, free country, democracy and all that inconsequential stuff.

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Reply #97 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:33pm

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:30pm:

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:17pm:

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

i dont want to get rid of it, I want the choice. You know, free country, democracy and all that inconsequential stuff.

You do have a choice - either you purchase the item that is Halal or you don't. No one is forcing you to have a Halal item.

I should have the same right to eat vegemite as anyone else, you dont even realise you are arguing for an erosion of civil rights.

Are you serious

You do have that right, however you are exercising your right not to eat it. Vegemite hasn't changed their recipe to suit muslims, all they've done is paid to show their product does not contain things muslims can't eat. Just like a company will pay for a heart foundation tick or a made in Australia logo. It makes good business sense, as is their right. You know, free country, democracy and all that inconsequential stuff.

silly arguement. made in Australia is just stating where its made. And the heart foundation tick has nothing to do with forcing me to conform to someone elses religious beliefs.

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Reply #98 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:37pm

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:32pm:

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

Wut? How can an extra layer of certification cost "nothing"? More to the point, how can something make billions of dollars, yet cost nothing?

Because the cost of the certification is so low the price is not passed on to the consumer. As Coles said halal certification lowers prices for consumers because it increases the market.

As for making us billions of dollars, the people spending those billions are overseas muslims and if we don't have a certification we can't export to them

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Reply #99 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:38pm

... wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:32pm:

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

Wut? How can an extra layer of certification cost "nothing"? More to the point, how can something make billions of dollars, yet cost nothing?

Because the cost of the certification is so low the price is not passed on to the consumer. As Coles said halal certification lowers prices for consumers because it increases the market.

As for making us billions of dollars, the people spending those billions are overseas muslims and if we don't have a certification we can't export to them

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: solution to halal scam Reply #100 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:39pm who is saying exports cant be halal certified? Straw man alert.
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Reply #101 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:41pm

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:30pm:

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 2:30pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:17pm:

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 11:56am:

Halal Certification is making Australia billions of dollars and costs the average Australian nothing. And half of you clowns want to get rid of it? Are you high?

i dont want to get rid of it, I want the choice. You know, free country, democracy and all that inconsequential stuff.

You do have a choice - either you purchase the item that is Halal or you don't. No one is forcing you to have a Halal item.

I should have the same right to eat vegemite as anyone else, you dont even realise you are arguing for an erosion of civil rights.

Are you serious

You do have that right, however you are exercising your right not to eat it. Vegemite hasn't changed their recipe to suit muslims, all they've done is paid to show their product does not contain things muslims can't eat. Just like a company will pay for a heart foundation tick or a made in Australia logo. It makes good business sense, as is their right. You know, free country, democracy and all that inconsequential stuff.

silly arguement. made in Australia is just stating where its made. And the heart foundation tick has nothing to do with forcing me to conform to someone elses religious beliefs.

Silly argument eating halal is not forcing you to conform to someone else's religious beliefs

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Reply #102 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 8:39pm

Raven wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 7:41pm:

Silly argument eating halal is not forcing you to conform to someone else's religious beliefs

if thats the case then why the need for halal certification at all? If its not used to conform to religious beliefs then why do the Muslims need it? Put a bit more thought into your posts next time.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: solution to halal scam Reply #103 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 9:19pm rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 8:39pm: If its not used to conform to religious beliefs then why do the Muslims need it? Shifting the goalposts rhino - your original point wasn't about muslims conforming, but you being forced to conform with them. Which you are not.
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Reply #104 - May 22^nd, 2015 at 10:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 9:19pm:

rhino wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 8:39pm:

If its not used to conform to religious beliefs then why do the Muslims need it?

Shifting the goalposts rhino - your original point wasn't about muslims conforming, but you being forced to conform with them. Which you are not.

Homo has also argued he doesn’t care about eating Halal at all. For Homo, this is about stopping Muslims - whatever it takes.

Of course he keeps moving the goalposts. Homo’s playing a totally different game.

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