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The Pensioners Know They Are Being Dudded
Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:07am
 
Pension sweetener meaningless: Plibersek

    AAP
    March 16, 2015
    The Australian


The Abbott government's proposed changes to its pension reforms are "meaningless", Deputy Opposition Leader Tanya Plibersek says.   Sad

In an attempt to draw parliamentary support the government is proposing to conduct a review every three years to ensure the adequacy of the pension rate once its growth is slowed by indexing to the consumer price index, instead of to the higher of the CPI or male total average weekly earnings.

The review would be conducted by an independent panel, although there would be no obligation to act on its recommendations.

"It's meaningless ... pensioners know they are being dudded," Ms Plibersek told Sky News on Sunday.   Sad

She said the review will simply show that the newer lower indexation rate means pensions are inadequate.   

"Then the government may or may not accept that advice," she said.

She said if the government is really concerned about the sustainability of pensions, more should be invested in superannuation, rather than delaying the compulsory super guarantee increase to 12 per cent and scrapping the low income contribution.

She also slammed as a "ridiculous proposition" Treasurer Joe Hockey's idea that young people should be able to access their super for a deposit on a home.

"It's even more ridiculous when you realise that Joe Hockey got rid of the First Home Savers' Accounts," she said.

Ms Plibersek said about 50,000 young Australians had almost half a billion dollars saved in these accounts, which received preferential tax treatment.

"Instead of taking money out of your super, you should be encouraging Australians to save extra," she said.

Independent senator Nick Xenophon said Social Services Minister Scott Morrison's proposal to appoint an independent umpire for the pension with no powers of enforcement was a case of "all bark and no bite".

He said shifting indexing of pensions from average weekly earnings to a lower basis of CPI was such a big deal it should be taken to an election.

"It will affect the spending power of pensioners for many years to come," the South Australian senator told reporters in Adelaide.   Sad

"I think the government has really jumped the shark on this one."
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Reply #1 - Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:14am
 
So nice to know that Labor believes that ensuring pension rates keep up with inflation is "meaningless"!
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Reply #2 - Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:18am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:14am:
So nice to know that Labor believes that ensuring pension rates keep up with inflation is "meaningless"!


Nonsense as usual!

A cut is a cut is a cut!
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Reply #3 - Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:20am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:18am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:14am:
So nice to know that Labor believes that ensuring pension rates keep up with inflation is "meaningless"!


Nonsense as usual!

A cut is a cut is a cut!


Pensions have risen by $45 per fortnight this year alone. That's more than any wage increase.
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Reply #4 - Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:45am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:14am:
So nice to know that Labor believes that ensuring pension rates keep up with inflation is "meaningless"!

Rubbish. It does no such thing.

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... the government is proposing to conduct a review every three years

to ensure the adequacy of the pension rate


once its growth is slowed ... The review would be conducted by an independent panel, although

there would be no obligation to act on its recommendations
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It's quite clear ... no obligation to act is NOT "ensuring" anything, and it's not inflation, but adequacy that's being monitored - a tacit admission that inflation indexing is NOT adequate.

This silly farce would not have been necessary if the government hadn't decided to break election promises.

"NO CHANGE TO PENSIONS". Broken!
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Reply #5 - Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:59am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:20am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:18am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:14am:
So nice to know that Labor believes that ensuring pension rates keep up with inflation is "meaningless"!


Nonsense as usual!

A cut is a cut is a cut!


Pensions have risen by $45 per fortnight this year alone. That's more than any wage increase.


I am calling bullshit on that one.

LINK PLEASE
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Reply #6 - Mar 16th, 2015 at 8:33am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:59am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:20am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:18am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:14am:
So nice to know that Labor believes that ensuring pension rates keep up with inflation is "meaningless"!


Nonsense as usual!

A cut is a cut is a cut!


Pensions have risen by $45 per fortnight this year alone. That's more than any wage increase.


I am calling bullshit on that one.

LINK PLEASE

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Reply #7 - Mar 16th, 2015 at 10:25am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:20am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:18am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:14am:
So nice to know that Labor believes that ensuring pension rates keep up with inflation is "meaningless"!


Nonsense as usual!

A cut is a cut is a cut!


Pensions have risen by $45 per fortnight this year alone. That's more than any wage increase.



a) to catch up with backlog and real prices/COL increases.

b)  A significant part of that - $18 or so - was for the Carbon Tax 'cost'.  You may argue that this should now go - I'll wait until my electricity bill for the quarter goes down by more than $15 FOR THE QUARTER.

c)  that was from September 2013 - not THIS YEAR - and included the kick from Julia for the CarbTax, and the previous half yearly normal increase due.

d)  One magnificent increase we got during Tony's tenure was a princely $3 for the six months....


Word for today:-

Dreadlin (n) - a political flunkey to be feared by all

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Reply #8 - Mar 16th, 2015 at 12:28pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:59am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:20am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 7:18am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 16th, 2015 at 6:14am:
So nice to know that Labor believes that ensuring pension rates keep up with inflation is "meaningless"!


Nonsense as usual!

A cut is a cut is a cut!


Pensions have risen by $45 per fortnight this year alone. That's more than any wage increase.


I am calling bullshit on that one.

LINK PLEASE


Mmm - No reply- No Link

Is Armpit making stuff up again?
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