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Reply #15 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:39pm
 
SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:33pm:
Yet I never said I hate my brother. When you have salvation through Jesus Christ then and only then will you have the light that you seek in your heart Bobby.

Jesus also said will not the blind following the blind fall into a ditch. That would be you and Marty. Did Jesus not say don't judge others (like you do) lest yea be judged but reprove your brother. Don't confuse reprove with judging your brother.

Namaste also has nothing to do with Jesus Christ nor Christianity. Another blind teaching you have been given. It is a form of greeting commonly found among Hindus of the Indian Subcontinent, in some Southeast Asian countries.

Are you trying to appear to be Hindu or come from one of these places. Why not say God Bless instead in case someone reading you thinks you are Hindi.



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Reply #16 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:49pm
 
Therefore in your own words marty is a false teacher then because not all spiritual leaders are teachers of the one true Light being Salvation through Jesus Christ.

Why would he draw from Indian religions and then associate that with the one True Light of Christ. The two are totally opposite. Being a false teacher he invents it as he goes. Being a so called light worker affords him a community of support when in fact Jesus said the road would extremely narrow and only a FEW would find it and travel along it. He also said in the last days the wood would be dry given what was happening to Him when he was crucified.

So your light isn't exactly adhering to the standards he appears to be upholding. In fact Jesus said many will come in My name, false prophets and wolves in sheeps clothing, DO NOT believe them. For they will say unto you here is the christ or there he is DO NOT BELIEVE them.
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Reply #17 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:58pm
 
SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:49pm:
Therefore in your own words marty is a false teacher then because not all spiritual leaders are teachers of the one true Light being Salvation through Jesus Christ.

Why would he draw from Indian religions and then associate that with the one True Light of Christ. The two are totally opposite. Being a false teacher he invents it as he goes. Being a so called light worker affords him a community of support when in fact Jesus said the road would extremely narrow and only a FEW would find it and travel along it. He also said in the last days the wood would be dry given what was happening to Him when he was crucified.

So your light isn't exactly adhering to the standards he appears to be upholding. In fact Jesus said many will come in My name, false prophets and wolves in sheeps clothing, DO NOT believe them. For they will say unto you here is the christ or there he is DO NOT BELIEVE them.



Can a Hindu not be wise?


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Reply #18 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 11:05pm
 
If you are referring to the Hindu religious identity then no. Hinduism is a false religion according to Jesus Christ the One True light. Why would you base your spirituality on the spiritually dead. Would a false religion appear wise, of course.

Jesus himself said in the last days a great deception will fall on mankind as to even deceive the elect. So be on your guard they appear as angels and come as wolves in sheep's clothing. Even if an Angel stands before you and says I am He DO NOT believe him.

Why not rather see the filling up of your being with the Holy Spirit God's own Spirit and meditate on His Word and let Him teach you within your own being. His Spirit entwined with yours, rather than listen to some man from another religion that follows many many gods ? or copper pyramids for that matter.
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Reply #19 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 12:20am
 
.....do we dismiss everything and everyone before Christ?

What is God?

Why did he need a son?

Why did he allow his execution?

Was Jesus armed at the last supper?
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Reply #20 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:04am
 
SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 11:05pm:
If you are referring to the Hindu religious identity then no. Hinduism is a false religion according to Jesus Christ the One True light. Why would you base your spirituality on the spiritually dead. Would a false religion appear wise, of course.

Jesus himself said in the last days a great deception will fall on mankind as to even deceive the elect. So be on your guard they appear as angels and come as wolves in sheep's clothing. Even if an Angel stands before you and says I am He DO NOT believe him.

Why not rather see the filling up of your being with the Holy Spirit God's own Spirit and meditate on His Word and let Him teach you within your own being. His Spirit entwined with yours, rather than listen to some man from another religion that follows many many gods ? or copper pyramids for that matter.



Sir master Light has borrowed ideas from many wise men.

There is nothing wrong with that.

Everyone has that right.

you are forgiven

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Reply #21 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 6:15am
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 12:20am:
.....do we dismiss everything and everyone before Christ?

What is God?

Why did he need a son?

Why did he allow his execution?

Was Jesus armed at the last supper?



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Reply #24 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:19pm
 
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PZ547 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:05pm:
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I would challenge Hitler to shoot me or cast me into the dungeon,” Gandhi wrote in his article. “I would not wait for fellow Jews to join me"
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Reply #26 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 1:24pm
 
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Gandhi rejected essential human ideals that all are created equal with right to life and liberty.

He spread racial hatred in South Africa. He told an Indian audience black Africans are “raw Kaffir[s] whose sole ambition is to… pass his life in indolence and nakedness.” He pioneered racial segregation at the Durban Post Office by demanding a third door to spare upper-caste Indians “indignity” of sharing a door with blacks. He pushed for war against Zulus and volunteered in the British Army to kill blacks.

He insulted human dignity in India. He raped his underage grandnieces, Manu and Abha, for years. He defended the caste system, praising its “fundamental divisions.” He spread violence against non-Hindus.

America, say no to Gandhi, a five-time Nobel Peace Prize reject
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Sponsors hope to gather 100,000 online signatures by March 12 to compel the White House to reassess the upper-caste Hindu leader, who President Obama has called “an inspiration.”

“Gandhi spewed racism against Africans, promoted segregation in pre-apartheid South Africa, fought in a colonial British war to kill blacks, and then returned to India to spread caste division among his own people,” said Arvin Valmuci, Communications Director of Organization for Minorities of India (OFMI), a group sponsoring the petition. “Foundational to his anti-human philosophy was commitment to varnashrama, the system that has poisoned Indian culture with division and discrimination for thousands of years.”

Obama has frequently adored Gandhi. In 2008, when asked with whom he would like to dine, dead or alive, he chose Gandhi. Later, he claimed Gandhi’s “spirit and example… extinguished apartheid in South Africa.” The petition offers a completely opposite perspective, insisting Gandhi perpetrated apartheid first in South Africa and then in his home country of India.

“Gandhi was a staunch believer in Varnashrama Dharma, the religious caste system of the Hindus,” said Dr. Muni Subramani, International Human Rights Relations Advisor to OFMI. “Every action he took to oppress blacks in Africa, Dalits in India, and divide the societies of the world sprung from his love for the violence of the caste system. This system is thousands of years old, it is ten thousand times worse than segregation in America ever was, and it still stands strong. Gandhi’s absurd defense of caste as ‘scientific’ was an unsurpassed evil against the most vulnerable people in South Asia, so we ask President Obama to reject Gandhi as a charlatan.”

Dr. Subramani and Valmuci pointed to Gandhi’s own words as proof he was devoted to caste. In 1921, for instance, he declared: “I am certainly against any attempt at destroying the fundamental divisions. The caste system is not based on inequality.” Then, in 1920, he said: “I believe that one acquires one’s caste by birth. One who is born in a Brahmin family dies a Brahmin.”

One of Gandhi’s strongest statements defending caste was in 1933, when he said: “The caste system, in my opinion, has a scientific basis. Reason does not revolt against it…. Caste creates a social and moral restraint — I can find no reason for their abolition. To abolish caste is to demolish Hinduism. There is nothing to fight against the Varnasharma. I don’t believe the caste system to be an odious and vicious dogma…. There is nothing sinful about it.”

“By defending the caste system, Gandhi practiced untouchability,” said Dr. Subramani. “It is only logical. If you say there are four levels of human beings, then one level will always be at the top and one will always be at the bottom. Caste system teaches that men are born unequal and pits one group against another to create a chaotic, discriminatory society. Gandhi tried to hoodwink Indians to think you can have caste without untouchability, but the truth is one can’t eat his cake and have it too. If we are too eliminate untouchability, we must first eliminate caste, and President Obama can play a part.”

India has 1.2 billion people and at least 20% — or 250 million — are Dalit. Known by this name which means “broken” or “oppressed,” the Dalit are the largest and most historically oppressed group in history. They reject the caste system, so Hindus consider them outside the four levels of caste. Hindus call them outcaste and treat them as untouchables.

Cultural discrimination against Dalits is everywhere in India. Most live in poverty. They are forbidden to eat or drink with caste Hindus and are often abused or beaten for violating religious and cultural practices that segregate them from the rest of society. Many are enslaved or forced into prostitution. Stories of Dalit rapes and the Indian state’s failure to prosecute the abusers are rampant.

Valmuci said: “Laws prohibiting untouchability were enshrined in India’s Constitution by Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, the country’s first Law Minister and a renowned humanitarian, but caste discrimination remains an ingrained cultural practice. Dr. Ambedkar, in his attempts to liberate the Dalit, was often undermined by Gandhi, especially at the Round Table Conference in London. Gandhi seized every opportunity to uphold caste. This is why Dr. Ambedkar said: ‘If a man with God’s name on his tongue and sword under his armpit deserved the appellation of a Mahatma, then Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was a Mahatma[/quote

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Reply #28 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 2:14pm
 
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Chapter & Verse re: the great Gandhi  (some, at least)

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PERSONAL FAILURE:

*“We know from his autobiography how shamefully he treated his wife. He was transparently honest and he had much less to hide from anyone else. Nothing can be found if other public figures are to be scrutinized because things have been carefully hidden and suppressed.” Gandhi, the family man

*Gandhi used to beat his wife up routinely.

*Gandhi was having sex when his father lay breathing his last upstairs.

*Gandhi denied sex to his wife for decades

*Gandhi was an adulterer and had a spiritual marriage with two British women who were in the Ashram

*Gandhi slept naked with his niece and other women to prove that he could control his manliness.

*Gandhi would do enemas twice a day and if he liked you allowed you to enter the piece up his rectum.

*Gandhi son left him and converted to Islam

*Gandhi was a total failure in South Africa where he tried to stratify the society, Whites, Indians and Africans

*The Indian government contributed $10 million for the movie Gandhi. It is based on a book of fiction called “Freedom at Midnight” by Collins et al. You can see glossed over failures and the perversion in the movie Gandhi but it is not overt and explicitly shown. You have to be smart and familiar with the history to see it embedded in the movie


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THE ORIGINS OF THE “MAHATMA” MONIKER: EVANGALIST GOALS OF MISSIONARIES IN THE SUBCONTINENT

Mr. Mohandas Gandhi was converted into a “Mahatma” under the auspicies of the British in South Africa. Its genesis was started by the white Christian clergy. Rev. Joseph J. Doke, a Baptist Minster was the first to write the biography of M. K. Gandhi.

What started as a ploy became an avalanche under a well planned scheme. Pastor John H. Holmes, a Unitarian ”priest” from New York praised Gandhi in his writings and sermons with titles like:
“Gandhi: The Modern Christ”,
“Mahatma Gandhi: The Greatest Man since Jesus Christ”,
“Mahatma Ji: Reincarnation of Christ”and
“Gandhi before Pilate.”


Romain Rolland, the French Nobel Laureate in literature thought of Gandhi not only as a Hindu saint, but also “another Christ”. He wrote Gandhi’s new biography in French which poured praise on the the diety— “Gandhi is the One Luminous, Creator of All,” “Mahatma.”

At this juncture the Nehru-Gandhi loyalist Hindus were brought in. Muslims and others from the Subcontinent were left aghast when Krishnalal Shridharni elevated Gandhi to the status of twentieth century Hindu god



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The Colonial rulers thought that by elevating Gandhi to a 20th century messiah and then converting him would open the flood gate for evangelizing and converting the Hindu and masses. However Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was not Emperor Constantine, and was unable to fulfill the wishes of the colonian masters


and more and more of same at link


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GANDHI GETS CAUGHT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN:-LITERALLY


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POLITICAL FAILURE OF GANDHI



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GANDHI WAS “CREATED” TO USE THE SOUTH AFRICANS IN THE BRITISH WARS



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GANDHI WAS A TOTAL FAILURE IN SOUTH AFRICA



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GANDHI WAS IMPORTED TO THE SUBCONTINENT BY THE BRITISH

Gandhi’s arrival in India was a carefully planned and crafted scheme to get rid of the Muslim leadership in the Indian National Congress. Some of the biggest millionaires in India devised a marketing plan to construct a leader for a superstitious, illiterate and colonized people. Gandhi was the perfect candidate



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MR GANDHI INTRODUCED RELIGIOUS SYMBOLISM INTO THE SUBCONTINENTAL POLITICS: THIS LED TO THE ALIENATION OF MUSLIMS ETC



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SCHEME TO DETHRONE THE MUSLIMS FROM THE CORRIDORS OF POWER



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GANDHI WAS A FAILURE IN THE SUBCONTIENT



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THE NON-VIOLENCE SLOGAN WAS FOR THE SAKE OF THE BRITISH RULERS


The “Non Violence” theme in the Subcontient was a great marketing ploy of Mr. Nehru and Mr. Gandhi. Gandhis sole contribution to history was to make 150 million Muslims of India subservient to the Hindus Quote:
Source: Mohandas by Gandhi’s grandson, In Search of Truth by Mohandas Gandhi, Freedom at Midnight by Le Pierre (screen play for the movie Gandhi).
Mohandas– a true story of a man, his people and an empire, on Mahatma Gandhi” by former Parliamentarian and writer Mr. Rajmohan Gandhi


[quote]Gandhi’s Girls

“The man in the loin cloth, it seems, has thought a good deal about loins,’ said one observer



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Instead, Gandhi with his back against the proverbial wall reached deep into his bag of tricks and, like a cat with nine lives, pulled yet another rabbit from his hat: a hunger strike. Over the course of a fifty-year career, Gandhi had turned this familiar strategy into a crowd pleaser that could move the masses or pummel an Empire


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Reply #29 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 2:28pm
 
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Gandhi just went to South Africa for earn money and name, because in India he could not do well.  In 1893, he accepted contract job and save Dada Abdulla & Co, whose business was smuggling and he charged very much for this


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In 1932 Gandhi collected one crore and 30 lakhs of rupees in the name of “Tilak Swaraj Fund”, for the extermination of the untouchables. However, only two lakhs for 60 million untouchables used, but only 43,381 rupees were actually spent.

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DR BABASAHEB AMBEDKAR WRITINGS AND SPEECHES Vol 9. What Congress and Gandhi have done to the Untouchables. ps 17- 39

Dr MURUGU DORAI, “Ambethkar kaappiyam”, Epic (Tamil) of Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar’s Biography, Part 2, ps 221-222


Complete with photos of headlines of the day



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In his whole life Gandhi said that he was creed of ‘Ahimsa’ (Non Violence). However, he initially favoured British for World War II without consultation of congressional leaders and representatives. And sends Indian army as alias and fight for England


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Gandhi advised everyone to live a simple life, however when he was in Jail there were three women to serve him


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In 1938, Subhas Chandra Bose elected as Congress president – despite Gandhi’s opposition. Later Gandhi went on hunger strike until Bose leave his post. Gandhi promised to British government that handover Subhas Chandra Bose at the time of independence


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Gandhi keep on saying that he is trying to save Bhagat Singh. However, the untold truth was Gandhi never contacted Viceroy about Bhagat Singh issue. An Indian revolutionary writer and author MANMATH NATH talk about these in his writings. Gandhi feared that threat to his leadership and about popularity of Bhagat Singh in the independence movement would be reasons want him hang



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Often Gandhi said that if the Pakistan would made it will only happen after his death. However, Gandhi who signed 1st on the proposal of partitioning India



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Gandhi did not open a single door of a Hindu temple in Gujarat for the UNTOUCHABLES



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As all you know that Gandhi as a revolution air, but once he said “I have come here on earth to fulfill the laws of caste”, but how can true revolution air Gandhi think about caste system. A person such as never thinks according to caste, not according to rich, poor etc


Many photos


http://storyglitz.com/unknown-facts-about-mahatma-gandhi-that-you-need-to-know/


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