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Re: Abbott Mob Thieving Off Disabled Pensioners
Reply #45 - Feb 27th, 2015 at 4:41pm
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 3:18pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:29pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:23pm:
So many so misinformed. You already have to do some work when you are on the DSP. I had to work, paid or unpaid, 8 hours per week.

We all know Morriscum is just going to throw half of those on the DSP on to the NewStart allowance, making their lives that much harder—they already have to travel for treatment, buy medicines etc.


NO actually you don't...You are ALLOWED to do so many hours hours per week on the DSP, depending on your particular abilities or  assessment.

For example, I have NEVER been required to do any work to receive the DSP, nor has my housemate.
If YOU do have to, then that is to do with YOU, not anyone else. 

You get assessed—and there are inspections to make sure you work the errr “optional” hours. I didn’t get inspected but I was a little over 12 months from retirement age. Weird you weren’t given a mandatory hours per week.



No, not 'weird' at all...IF you are on the DSP (which I personally doubt) then there MUST have been something in your particular case, that required you to work X number of hours per week/fortnight.
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Re: Abbott Mob Thieving Off Disabled Pensioners
Reply #46 - Feb 27th, 2015 at 5:14pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 4:38pm:
____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:26pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:58pm:
____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:23pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:01pm:
____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:49pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm:
____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am:
Centerlink print out of their supposed payments.

Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off?



You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you???

The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90.

I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78.




Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure.

Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark.

And as already stated, this is not an isolated case.



And again, that's bullshit. Your 'friend' can find out what the deduction is for...as it is (usually) clearly shown on the Centrelink website.

My DSP for example shows NO change from Feb to March whatsoever (other than the Centrepay deductions that I already know about).



Will take you through this again.

The first post's picture is a letter they received in the mail.

They took it into centrelink and centrelink had no record of the letter, no record of any deductions to explain the less amount stated in the letter, and then printed out their record of this persons future payment. Picture in the second post.

Centrelink said this is occurring a lot and they don't know why. They are not able to access the computers above theirs, that are behind the letters being sent out with reduced payments.


Yes, and since MY DSP doesn't actually show ANY changes comparable with your friend's letter, I still say there is something that your friend as done, or agreed to, that has caused this...either a repayment for a Centrelink debt, or an extra payment to someone  (maybe Housing or a utility company)

And it still most likely has NOTHING to do with the government 'stealing money' from them..



If as you say, there are extra charges or some changes. How come centrelink don't know of them and can not explain the letter and the differing amount in the letter and what they have on record.

Also why the letter doesn't explain the lesser amount.

And they (centrelink staff) also stating, this is not an isolated case of this happen?

Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean a. it will not, and b. it's not happening to this person and others.

I started this thread so to make others aware if they are receiving benefits or they know of others receiving, so to watch out.

Could your blind denial be because of your hatred of anything not politically conservative?


Well Centrelink will have actually known about them, AND told your friend, the fact that 'your friend' hasn't passed that info on to you, is more about your 'friend' than it is about Centrelink...( your friend is most likely lying their arse off, in order to stay in good with the Greens)



The person is not a liar. He has no reason to lie. And for you to accuse others of lying, then explain the difference between the centrelink letter sum, and the print out amount from centrelink.

What next, are you going to call me a liar again?


Stop digging your hole and pull your head in.

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Re: Abbott Mob Thieving Off Disabled Pensioners
Reply #47 - Feb 27th, 2015 at 5:55pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 4:41pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 3:18pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:29pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:23pm:
So many so misinformed. You already have to do some work when you are on the DSP. I had to work, paid or unpaid, 8 hours per week.

We all know Morriscum is just going to throw half of those on the DSP on to the NewStart allowance, making their lives that much harder—they already have to travel for treatment, buy medicines etc.


NO actually you don't...You are ALLOWED to do so many hours hours per week on the DSP, depending on your particular abilities or  assessment.

For example, I have NEVER been required to do any work to receive the DSP, nor has my housemate.
If YOU do have to, then that is to do with YOU, not anyone else. 

You get assessed—and there are inspections to make sure you work the errr “optional” hours. I didn’t get inspected but I was a little over 12 months from retirement age. Weird you weren’t given a mandatory hours per week.



No, not 'weird' at all...IF you are on the DSP (which I personally doubt) then there MUST have been something in your particular case, that required you to work X number of hours per week/fortnight.

I can assure you I damn well was on the DSP about 14 months 2011-12. Couldn’t work and had to close the doors on my Home Brew Shop which about broke my heart.
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Re: Abbott Mob Thieving Off Disabled Pensioners
Reply #48 - Feb 27th, 2015 at 6:05pm
 
____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 5:14pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 4:38pm:
____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 2:26pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:58pm:
____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:23pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 1:01pm:
____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:49pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 12:40pm:
____ wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:51am:
Centerlink print out of their supposed payments.

Do the abbott mob see the disabled an easy target to steal off?



You DO realise that the two pictures you posted disagree with each other, don't you???

The February 2015 payments in the first post are $629.90 and the May 2015 payments are also  $629.90.

I'd say that your 'friend' had a centrepay deduction of $23.78.




Meanwhile centrelink can not show what this phantom deduction is for ... and there records show that the payment for that date is the full $629 figure.

Those above centrelink are cutting while keeping centrelink and the DS pensioner in the dark.

And as already stated, this is not an isolated case.



And again, that's bullshit. Your 'friend' can find out what the deduction is for...as it is (usually) clearly shown on the Centrelink website.

My DSP for example shows NO change from Feb to March whatsoever (other than the Centrepay deductions that I already know about).



Will take you through this again.

The first post's picture is a letter they received in the mail.

They took it into centrelink and centrelink had no record of the letter, no record of any deductions to explain the less amount stated in the letter, and then printed out their record of this persons future payment. Picture in the second post.

Centrelink said this is occurring a lot and they don't know why. They are not able to access the computers above theirs, that are behind the letters being sent out with reduced payments.


Yes, and since MY DSP doesn't actually show ANY changes comparable with your friend's letter, I still say there is something that your friend as done, or agreed to, that has caused this...either a repayment for a Centrelink debt, or an extra payment to someone  (maybe Housing or a utility company)

And it still most likely has NOTHING to do with the government 'stealing money' from them..



If as you say, there are extra charges or some changes. How come centrelink don't know of them and can not explain the letter and the differing amount in the letter and what they have on record.

Also why the letter doesn't explain the lesser amount.

And they (centrelink staff) also stating, this is not an isolated case of this happen?

Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean a. it will not, and b. it's not happening to this person and others.

I started this thread so to make others aware if they are receiving benefits or they know of others receiving, so to watch out.

Could your blind denial be because of your hatred of anything not politically conservative?


Well Centrelink will have actually known about them, AND told your friend, the fact that 'your friend' hasn't passed that info on to you, is more about your 'friend' than it is about Centrelink...( your friend is most likely lying their arse off, in order to stay in good with the Greens)



The person is not a liar. He has no reason to lie. And for you to accuse others of lying, then explain the difference between the centrelink letter sum, and the print out amount from centrelink.

What next, are you going to call me a liar again?



Stop digging your hole and pull your head in.



Is there a difference between the 'letter sum' and the 'printout amount'??

So yes, I will call you a liar again..the 2 photos are either from 2 different people, or there is a deduction that your friend has failed to mention.
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