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Feb 10th, 2015 at 6:42am
 
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Melbourne Jewish school sent paedophile teacher to Israel...


JEWISH leaders who knew a teacher had admitted fondling young boys did not stop him associating with children in Israel after paying for his ticket to move there, the royal commission has heard. 
 
The actions of the Yeshivah Centre and school in Melbourne — part of the orthodox Chabad movement — as well as its counterpart in Sydney are being examined in relation to three convicted pedophiles who abused children while working there.

The royal commission investigating institutional responses to child sexual abuse today heard evidence about how Yeshivah had responded when parents became aware in 1992 that teacher David Kramer had sexually touched some of his young students.

Zephaniah Waks, father of three boys who were abused at Yeshivah College, said senior rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Groner had told him a psychiatrist had examined Kramer and concluded the teacher allowed himself to be caught because he wanted to be stopped.

Rabbi Groner, now deceased, reportedly said there was a risk of self-harm so Kramer could not be fired.  Roll Eyes


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The commission heard Mr Waks felt neither he nor any other parent could inform the police because they would be shunned and intimidated by the community, under the ancient Jewish code of mesirah which prevents Jews from informing on other Jews to civil authorities  Undecided


I was also reading last week that senior Rabbi were threatening others not to report child abuse... saying, that dobbing on fellow Rabbi was a worse crime than incest...

what... ?  Shocked
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Reply #1 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 6:44am
 
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Melbourne Jewish school sent paedophile teacher to Israel...


JEWISH leaders who knew a teacher had admitted fondling young boys did not stop him associating with children in Israel after paying for his ticket to move there, the royal commission has heard. 
 
The actions of the Yeshivah Centre and school in Melbourne — part of the orthodox Chabad movement — as well as its counterpart in Sydney are being examined in relation to three convicted pedophiles who abused children while working there.

The royal commission investigating institutional responses to child sexual abuse today heard evidence about how Yeshivah had responded when parents became aware in 1992 that teacher David Kramer had sexually touched some of his young students.

Zephaniah Waks, father of three boys who were abused at Yeshivah College, said senior rabbi Yitzchok Dovid Groner had told him a psychiatrist had examined Kramer and concluded the teacher allowed himself to be caught because he wanted to be stopped.

Rabbi Groner, now deceased, reportedly said there was a risk of self-harm so Kramer could not be fired.  Roll Eyes


I was also reading last week that senior Rabbi were threatening others not to report child abuse... saying, that dobbing on fellow Rabbi was a worse crime than incest...

what... ?  Shocked


many blessings

they will never report on another fellow

this is indoctrinated through all satanic religions of abrahamic persuasion 

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yet they give offerings of child sacrifice yet still to moloch

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Reply #2 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 9:42am
 
Are Mohels committing abuse by sucking a childs penis after circumcision. Does that mean that every Jewish male is a victim of child abuse?

Do Mohels get into that business because of the ability to inflict serial child abuse?

Gizmo, please advise.
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Reply #3 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 11:17am
 
Svengali wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 9:42am:
Are Mohels committing abuse by sucking a childs penis after circumcision. Does that mean that every Jewish male is a victim of child abuse?

Do Mohels get into that business because of the ability to inflict serial child abuse?



well yes by definition

when the ritual is being performed

they suck the blood out of the little baby penis

this blood is pure and the satanics devour this

then the initiate is bound by rabbinical text and dogma as a payback for fellatio

much like the catholic drink blood eat flesh fetish

in that they instruct all drink blood eat flesh

this is a non sense and a satanic ritual ceremony

many have a great party afterwards

and thank the rabbi for sucking their childs penis

these are exposed and forgiven

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Re: Jewish hiding paedophiles
Reply #4 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 11:32am
 
Jewish hiding paedophiles

One Israeli institution gives a kiddy fondler a second chance.

Jews as such do not 'hide paedophiles'.

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Reply #5 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 12:47pm
 
WTF?

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Two more babies stricken with herpes after ritual ultra-orthodox Jewish oral blood sucking circumcision in New York City
Since 2000 13 known cases of herpes have been contracted from the religious practice
Two deaths and two babies suffering brain damage have resulted
Department of health warns there being no safe way to perform the ritual that dates back more than 5,000 years

Two more infants have been infected with a deadly herpes virus in the last three months after undergoing a controversial religious oral circumcision in New York City.


The latest cases bring the count to 13 infants since 2000, two of which suffered brain damage and two died from the virus which can rapidly spread throughout its body.


The ultra-Orthodox Jewish practice of metzitzah b'peh requires a practitioner to orally suck the baby's penis   Shocked to 'cleanse' the open wound following its circumcision, making them susceptible to the virus.

The department of health says one of the latest infants to contract the virus developed a fever and a lesion on its scrotum, seven days after the procedure. The boy later tested positive for HSV-1. That virus differs from HSV-2, the genital herpes, which is contracted during sexual intercourse.
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'A herpes infection in a newborn baby has the risk of leading to severe illness and death,' Jay Varma, deputy commissioner for disease control at the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene

The religious practice that dates back to more than 5,000 years defies warning by the city's department of health which says there is no safe way to perform the oral suction on an open wound

But some rabbis stand grounded behind the practice, calling it a religious freedom while noting its long history.

In September the department voted to require parents to sign forms consenting to the risks of the practice after the death of two children who contracted the virus through the practice.


The parents of those newly infected boys are said to have not signed those forms.


According to Rabbi David Zwiebel, executive vice president of the Orthodox Jewish organization Agudath Israel of America, two-thirds of boys born in New York City's Hasidic communities are circumcised in the oral suction matter.
  Huh

The health department claims they've had complaints in past by parents who say they weren't made aware that the oral practice would be performed on their child.


what the ***  Huh


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Reply #6 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 12:51pm
 
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satanic ritual .
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Reply #8 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 7:02pm
 
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these are khazars

pretending to be jews ,

hitler killed many jews yes

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Reply #9 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 11:02pm
 
I wonder if Yadda is a Mohel.
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Reply #10 - Feb 11th, 2015 at 9:53am
 
None of this is exactly 'news' as far as I'm aware

Twelve or more years ago there was an online site which published names, offence, date, court, etc. of jews who'd been charged with sexual offences against minors and the list just went On and ON and ONNNNNNNN

the site was brought down repeatedly, but the owners/members of the site put it back up just as often

until the day the site was removed


MAKO files are still up in Australia yet they perform the same function, and have done for years,  as the jew-paeophiles site


Who you are, who you know, apparently


They'll reap the whirlwind though.  Eventually

Pity the poor Aussie journo who published this latest outrage.  He's probably had dozens of death threats etc. ever since the story broke.  All those stalwarts whose name may not be mentioned are most likely working the system to ensure that journo becomes unemployed.  Or some other dirty trick

Or perhaps he'll have to write a BS headline about 'poor jews' being victimised and bashed while collecting their kids from school in order to atone for writing the truth about one or more arrested and charged jewish paedophiles

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Reply #11 - Feb 11th, 2015 at 12:16pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 9:53am:
None of this is exactly 'news' as far as I'm aware

Twelve or more years ago there was an online site which published names, offence, date, court, etc. of jews who'd been charged with sexual offences against minors and the list just went On and ON and ONNNNNNNN

the site was brought down repeatedly, but the owners/members of the site put it back up just as often

until the day the site was removed


MAKO files are still up in Australia yet they perform the same function, and have done for years,  as the jew-paeophiles site


Who you are, who you know, apparently


They'll reap the whirlwind though.  Eventually

Pity the poor Aussie journo who published this latest outrage.  He's probably had dozens of death threats etc. ever since the story broke.  All those stalwarts whose name may not be mentioned are most likely working the system to ensure that journo becomes unemployed.  Or some other dirty trick

Or perhaps he'll have to write a BS headline about 'poor jews' being victimised and bashed while collecting their kids from school in order to atone for writing the truth about one or more arrested and charged jewish paedophiles



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/pressure-mounts-...

Pressure mounts for police corruption probe
THE AUSTRALIAN JANUARY 31, 2015 12:00AM

VICTORIA’S yet-to-be-appointed new police chief commissioner will join the force facing calls for a corruption inquiry after fresh allegations about the bungled or corrupt handling of an informer that led to two murders.

While the Labor government yesterday said it was not considering a royal commission, reported claims of police errors and possible corruption over the murders in 2004 of husband and wife Terence and Christine Hodson are set to fire the debate.

While the opposition refused to comment yesterday, internal political pressure will build for the police handling of the murders to be investigated.

Two former senior police investigators have told Fairfax Media of their concerns about the way the Hodson murders were examined by police.

Former anti-corruption investigator Murray Gregor and former homicide investigator Charlie Bezzina said there were anomalies in the investigations.

Mr Gregor has said an allegation by Terrence Hodson — that disgraced former policeman Paul Dale asked him to find work as a $250,000-a-head hitman — had never been followed up by the force.

Mr Gregor also claimed Mr Dale’s connections may have stretched beyond the late drug lord and murderer Carl Williams to include a small group of police and a lawyer.

Mr Bezzina lamented the lack of resources expended on the Hodson murders.

Yesterday, a spokeswoman for Police Minister Wade Noonan said the government was not considering a royal commission.

A Victoria Police spokesman said the force would await the coroner’s findings. “Unsolved homicide investigations are never closed. If further information comes to hand, it will be examined,’’ she said.

Victoria’s anti-corruption commission said yesterday a report by Murray Kellam QC into the conduct of police in relation to management of human sources, particularly whether they had met their ethical and legal obligations, was expected this year.

The Hodsons were murdered at the home in Kew, in east Melbourne, after Terrence Hodson had turned police informer. He previously had been arrested at a break-in with drug squad detective Dave Miechel. Hodson struck a deal with police, accusing Mr Dale of organising the burglary, an allegation Mr Dale has denied.

Mr Dale could not be contacted yesterday.
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Reply #12 - Feb 11th, 2015 at 5:11pm
 
Rabbi is saying we should be nicer to pedophiles after a case where jewish pedophiles were convicted in the rape of a 15 year old.

"...in an email to a Sydney Jewish group, he discouraged them from issuing a media statement calling on members of the Jewish community to report abuse..."

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/abuse-inquiry-into-jewish-centres-...

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    2 days ago February 09, 2015 9:37PM

Maria Gerace (C), during the public hearing into Yeshivah Melbourne

A senior rabbi says the justice system should be more lenient towards pedophiles who have repented. Source: AAP

A SENIOR rabbi believes the justice system should be more lenient towards pedophiles who have stopped offending so that those who repent don't feel like "scum" forever.

PEDOPHILES who are no longer abusing children should not have to spend their lives feeling like the "scum of the earth", Rabbi Yosef Feldman told the royal commission into child sex abuse on Monday.
"I would be asking for more leniency on people who have shown that they haven't offended in the last 20 years or decades ago, and have psychological analyses that this is the case," Rabbi Feldman said.

"Once someone is not a pedophile any more or is showing (he) is not acting wrongly any more, that should be considered in a very strong way."

A more lenient approach for pedophiles, including avoiding lengthy jail terms, would show them that "when you do the right thing, you won't get mistreated badly and it's not the end of the world ... then you are not treated like a pariah, like a scum of the earth".

Rabbi Feldman was also asked about an apparent conflict between his public statements and a private email he sent in mid 2011.

Publicly, he supported a rabbinical directive that said it was not against Jewish law to report child abuse allegations to secular authorities.

But in an email to a Sydney Jewish group, he discouraged them from issuing a media statement calling on members of the Jewish community to report abuse.

Rabbi Feldman told the commission he was only concerned that more media attention would trigger false complaints.

"I was worried that the publicity would bring about fake victims," Rabbi Feldman said.

"... Too much hype causes miscarriages of justice."

The commission also took evidence from a man who, in 1991 and as a 15-year-old, was raped by David Cyprys, then caretaker at Yeshivah school in Melbourne.

His mother interrupted her leukaemia treatment to fly from interstate once she learned of the abuse.

Yeshivah responded by cancelling the boy's school scholarship.

"From the time of the disclosure, no one associated with the Yeshivah would speak to us or help us," the victim, named only as AVR, told the commission.

Cyprys was convicted and jailed for eight years in 2013 for abusing nine boys at Yeshivah Melbourne.

The Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse is investigating the response of Yeshivah Melbourne and Yeshivah Bondi to child sexual abuse by Cyprys and also David Kramer and Daniel Hayman in the 1980s and 1990s.

All three have since been convicted.
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Reply #13 - Feb 11th, 2015 at 5:20pm
 
The Jewish community has attacked, ostracised and shunned anybody who reports pedophilia by jews. Their Rabbi wants soicety to forgive the pedophiles while punishing the victims.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/feb/03/orthodox-jewish-community-...
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Jewish-victims-advocate-in-Australia-alleges-cover...

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The orthodox Jewish community has responded to allegations of child sex abuse within their institutions with “moral destitution” and by “turning on the victim”, the wife of a man who was abused by religious leaders said.

Her testimony to the royal commission into institutional responses into child sex abuse on Tuesday followed evidence from other victims and their families, who also described being attacked and ostracised after coming forward.

The witness, identified only as AVC, said the abuse of her husband occurred while he was a student at the Yeshivah Centre in Melbourne, but he only gained the strength to speak up as an adult.

“As a spouse of a victim and whistleblower, I feel hated and isolated in my community,” she told the commission at Victoria’s county court. “I have lost faith in the leadership of the Jewish community.”

Her husband had been abused by convicted pedophiles David Cyprys, a former locksmith and security guard at the centre, and Daniel “Gug” Hayman, a former director, AVC told the commission.

“Well beyond the horrible acts of the perpetrators against my husband that had ripped the rug of security, certainty and innocence out from his childhood, we are being screwed once more by the adolescent self-serving and callous response of the community,” she said.

“At a time when support and love are needed, we are facing hate and vitriol. No one cares what is right.”

Commissioner Justice Jennifer Coate was clearly moved as AVC described how after her husband went to the police, he was attacked and questioned on Yeshivah internet forums, including by senior figures.
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Religious leaders at the centre began to treat the couple’s children differently, and many of their friends abandoned them, AVC said.

“The community’s response to their awakening to the child sexual abuse riddling their community is to turn on the victim and to make them the subject of suspicion,” she told the commission.

“Perhaps it is easier for Jewish community leaders to deflect their responsibility, their mishandling of the situation, by perpetuating the myth that my husband’s supposed desire to destroy the community is behind all these sexual abuse allegations.”

Earlier in the day another witness, Zephaniah Waks, spoke about the prohibition against “mesirah” within orthodox Jewish law, which he said prevented members from going to non-secular authorities.

Three of his sons were abused by various senior staff within the Yeshivah Centre in Melbourne.

Waks said he now believed religions should not be allowed to “hide behind” the rules that dictate their faith to avoid state involvement in child sex abuse investigations.

While he was wary of state intervention into religion, “in matters of life and death, including child sexual abuse, this rule must be broken”, he said.

“If a religious community hides behind false, exaggerated or even real religious precepts to seriously harm people, especially children, I believe the state must interfere.”

Waks told counsel assisting the commission, Maria Gerace, about how he was “reduced to nothing” by his religious community in 2011 when he and one of his sons, Manny, began speaking out about the abuse.

“We felt our world was flipped upside down,” Waks said, becoming so upset he had to pause.

“Every aspect of our lives involved the Yeshivah community. We lived across the road [from the centre]. It felt like we were suddenly reduced to nothing, and had lost all our friends.”

He and his family have since left the country and the Yeshivah community, largely because of the abuse, Waks said.

The commission hearings, which began on Monday, are the first time child sex abuse in the Jewish community has been examined since the commission began its work in 2013. The hearings continue.
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Reply #14 - Feb 11th, 2015 at 5:40pm
 
The enablers who failed to act when informed of pedophilia should be facing criminal charges. Not only did they fail to act they punished the victim.

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Dont-go-after-reformed-pedophiles-Australian-rabbi...

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One former student of the Melbourne Yeshiva Center, which is not affiliated with its counterpart in Sydney, told the commission that after informing the school’s rabbinic leadership that he was molested by pedophile David Cyprys, he lost his scholarship.

“They did not offer to help me or provide me with counseling,” AJN quoted the student, identified as AVR, as saying.
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