John Smith wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:


I think its more like "up the customer".

Everybody wants more than they can afford and some are too weak or not intelligent enough to know they are in too deep and they should be protected from the sharks.

There should be no penalty for exiting contracts when the customer has gone beyond its means.

Red Barons spawn lost $2 thousand. The builder should be forced to return that money and Red Baron should be in the forefront of demanding that return.

Sales people are dangerous because they are on a commission and they don't care if customer goes in too deep and in fact will encourage over commitment to boost their commission.

Red Baron, go after the builder to return the money.

Just read the contract, is that hard or difficult in some way? Ive had my fingers burnt on legally binding contracts I didnt read, my own stupid fault for which I take full personal responsibility.

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red baron wrote on Feb 11^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:


Rent a pair of balls Red Baron and get your son's $2 thousand back.

red baron wrote on Feb 11^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:


Alternatively, when you are at the Display Home, you ask the saleswo/man what it costs to have that exact place.....which most people would do, and if you failed to do that...........you bloody read the Contract, and if in doubt, you go see a Lawyer.

come on people, doesnt mean hes stupid, and as he says,  learnt a lesson from it. Same as I did and Im sure many of you have done. If we didnt have parasites lawyers we wouldnt need legal contracts and would be able to do deals with a hand shake.