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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #30 - Feb 9th, 2015 at 5:45pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 9th, 2015 at 5:26pm:
'Standard Government job'

Governments rule through fear- global cooling, nuclear winter, global warming. They use that fear to get elected or re-elected.

Scientists are a microcosm of society; replete with the rogues that plague humanity.

John Cook's 41 papers of those scientists that explicitly stated humans caused climate change not withstanding.  He then added in others that intimated or mentioned cAGW to pad the number to reach 97%.

'are being accused of taking dodgy money and they aren't'

I haven't seen that, but I can't be absolutely sure it doesn't happen either. I mean the Koch Bros fund a lot of pro- AGW universities. Penn State being one.

So,if they aren't on the take are they incompetent? A la one, M Mann, treemometers and upside down Tiljander graphs?

CRACK IS SO BORING MATE...  Grin Grin

I would advise you to stop smoking it...  Cheesy
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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #31 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:39am
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 1:32am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:14pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:07pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:43pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:
lee wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Wow - going down before AGW.


I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896.


No, but it IS going down in 1953..


57 years after the theory of Global Warming was first put forward.


Well around that....although the 'theory of Global Warming' didn't get much traction until about the 1970s or so...

Is that why the nuclear industry was trying to use it to sell nuclear power in Perth in the 1960s?

Huh Huh  Wink


The proposed nuclear power plant near Perth was 1977.
1969 was the when the Jervis Bay nuclear power plant proposal.

The anti-nuclear movement didn't even really kick off until 1972 (when the French were doing tests at Moruroa Atoll)
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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #32 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:43am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:39am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 1:32am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:14pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:07pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:43pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:
lee wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Wow - going down before AGW.


I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896.


No, but it IS going down in 1953..


57 years after the theory of Global Warming was first put forward.


Well around that....although the 'theory of Global Warming' didn't get much traction until about the 1970s or so...

Is that why the nuclear industry was trying to use it to sell nuclear power in Perth in the 1960s?

Huh Huh  Wink


The proposed nuclear power plant near Perth was 1977.
1969 was the when the Jervis Bay nuclear power plant proposal.

ok ,... so you're telling me I'm a liar  Wink Wink
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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #33 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:44am
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:43am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:39am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 1:32am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:14pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:07pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:43pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:
lee wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Wow - going down before AGW.


I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896.


No, but it IS going down in 1953..


57 years after the theory of Global Warming was first put forward.


Well around that....although the 'theory of Global Warming' didn't get much traction until about the 1970s or so...

Is that why the nuclear industry was trying to use it to sell nuclear power in Perth in the 1960s?

Huh Huh  Wink


The proposed nuclear power plant near Perth was 1977.
1969 was the when the Jervis Bay nuclear power plant proposal.

ok ,... so you're telling me I'm a liar  Wink Wink


Misinformed perhaps...
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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #34 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:45am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:44am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:43am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:39am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 1:32am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:14pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:07pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:43pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:
lee wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Wow - going down before AGW.


I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896.


No, but it IS going down in 1953..


57 years after the theory of Global Warming was first put forward.


Well around that....although the 'theory of Global Warming' didn't get much traction until about the 1970s or so...

Is that why the nuclear industry was trying to use it to sell nuclear power in Perth in the 1960s?

Huh Huh  Wink


The proposed nuclear power plant near Perth was 1977.
1969 was the when the Jervis Bay nuclear power plant proposal.

ok ,... so you're telling me I'm a liar  Wink Wink


Misinformed perhaps...

-->you responded in less than 15 seconds i would have to have said,... whoah!

...something serious going on there buddy...  Roll Eyes
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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #35 - Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:47am
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:45am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:44am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:43am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 1:39am:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 1:32am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:14pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 9:07pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:43pm:
Wolseley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:
lee wrote on Feb 2nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:
Wow - going down before AGW.


I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896.


No, but it IS going down in 1953..


57 years after the theory of Global Warming was first put forward.


Well around that....although the 'theory of Global Warming' didn't get much traction until about the 1970s or so...

Is that why the nuclear industry was trying to use it to sell nuclear power in Perth in the 1960s?

Huh Huh  Wink


The proposed nuclear power plant near Perth was 1977.
1969 was the when the Jervis Bay nuclear power plant proposal.

ok ,... so you're telling me I'm a liar  Wink Wink


Misinformed perhaps...

-->you responded in less than 15 seconds i would have to have said,... whoah!

...something serious going on there buddy...  Roll Eyes


Nope, up late watching tv shows on the computer.
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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #36 - Feb 19th, 2015 at 4:25pm
 
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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #37 - Feb 20th, 2015 at 4:46pm
 
According to Office of the Washington State Climatologist they only have data since 1979 for Hurricane Ridge.

http://www.climate.washington.edu/snowdepth/
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Reply #38 - Feb 20th, 2015 at 6:24pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
According to Office of the Washington State Climatologist they only have data since 1979 for Hurricane Ridge.

http://www.climate.washington.edu/snowdepth/

The article acknowleges that fact!

Cheesy
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Reply #39 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 12:40pm
 
Actually from the link the only thing I can see  is -

'The worst ever before since 1979 was 17" in 2005'

Nothing to say "no data before 1979". Of course I could be wrong. So please point me to where it says there is no earlier data.
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Reply #40 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 12:40am
 
lee wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 12:40pm:
Actually from the link the only thing I can see  is -

'The worst ever before since 1979 was 17" in 2005'

Nothing to say "no data before 1979". Of course I could be wrong. So please point me to where it says there is no earlier data.

That's it--> there is the acknowledgement right there... were you expecting a newspaper article to be of scientific journal standard or something  Roll Eyes
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Reply #41 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 3:56pm
 
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Reply #42 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 11:03am
 
California is in drought- what a surprise.
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Reply #43 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 1:47pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 11:03am:
California is in drought- what a surprise.



California in drought, I bet thats never happened before ... well never happened before apart from the ten thousand other times that is  Cheesy
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Reply #44 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 2:20pm
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 1:47pm:
lee wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 11:03am:
California is in drought- what a surprise.



California in drought, I bet thats never happened before ... well never happened before apart from the ten thousand other times that is  Cheesy

no links of course  Wink Wink
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