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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #15 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 2:46am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 6^th, 2015 at 2:04am:

I find it amazing lee showed that last graph with its commentary in full... Shocked

... and sourced! Cheesy

lee wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 5:49pm:

Another view of Spencer Creek

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/mpaine/snow_aug_sep_54-12.jpg

Notes: This graph shows the depth of snow in the middle of August & September respectively (3rd week), over the period 1954-2012. The year to year variations are very evident in this graph. They do not seem to be predictable! The linear trendline shows no noticeable change to the av
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rage depth during August over the decades. But the peaks seem to be getting lower!

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/mpaine/snow.html#year_month

.. can't take it back now can ya mate Cheesy

... ( including typo Sad

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...how long did it take me to see that... is that why i kept looking at it so closely??? Cheesy

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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #19 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 10:16am

Climate change has been with us since day dot, otherwise we would still be a rock of cooled lava.

Climate change has cycles, how do I know, look into our history.

Climate change is controlled by the elements of nature and physics, not by mans emission of CO2.

Man's emissions of CO2 are puny compared with the natural CO2 thrown into our atmosphere by the oceans and the land.

CO2 doesn't control temperature here on Earth.

Otherwise it would have been apparent in our history.

Anthropogenic Global Warming is climate change pornography so please no more bullshit.

The ice in the arctic today is about the same as it was in 1938.

It comes and goes in cycles.

Research the past to understand the future.

http://cecaust.com.au/global_warming/Big%20Arctic%20Melt.pdf

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
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Reply #20 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:17pm

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 10:16am:

Climate change has been with us since day dot, otherwise we would still be a rock of cooled lava.

Climate change has cycles, how do I know, look into our history.

Climate change is controlled by the elements of nature and physics, not by mans emission of CO2.

Otherwise it would have been apparent in our history.

http://i59.tinypic.com/35l6a2d.jpg

Anthropogenic Global Warming is climate change pornography so please no more bullshit.

The ice in the arctic today is about the same as it was in 1938.

It comes and goes in cycles.

Research the past to understand the future.

http://cecaust.com.au/global_warming/Big%20Arctic%20Melt.pdf

http://i60.tinypic.com/iymvpl.gif

Does Ajax believe in science or not Shocked

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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #21 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:33pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:17pm:

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 10:16am:

Climate change has been with us since day dot, otherwise we would still be a rock of cooled lava.

Climate change has cycles, how do I know, look into our history.

Climate change is controlled by the elements of nature and physics, not by mans emission of CO2.

Otherwise it would have been apparent in our history.

http://i59.tinypic.com/35l6a2d.jpg

Anthropogenic Global Warming is climate change pornography so please no more bullshit.

The ice in the arctic today is about the same as it was in 1938.

It comes and goes in cycles.

Research the past to understand the future.

http://cecaust.com.au/global_warming/Big%20Arctic%20Melt.pdf

http://i60.tinypic.com/iymvpl.gif

Does Ajax believe in science or not Shocked

So you believe in science payed by big business and that make its true.

good luck in life champ.

ooouuurroooo.

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery & prison" Regas Feraeos

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Reply #22 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:52pm

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:17pm:

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 10:16am:

Climate change has been with us since day dot, otherwise we would still be a rock of cooled lava.

Climate change has cycles, how do I know, look into our history.

Climate change is controlled by the elements of nature and physics, not by mans emission of CO2.

Otherwise it would have been apparent in our history.

http://i59.tinypic.com/35l6a2d.jpg

Anthropogenic Global Warming is climate change pornography so please no more bullshit.

The ice in the arctic today is about the same as it was in 1938.

It comes and goes in cycles.

Research the past to understand the future.

http://cecaust.com.au/global_warming/Big%20Arctic%20Melt.pdf

http://i60.tinypic.com/iymvpl.gif

Does Ajax believe in science or not Shocked

So you believe in science payed by big business and that make its true.

good luck in life champ.

ooouuurroooo.

The IPCC is payed by who? Shocked

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Reply #23 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 1:03pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:17pm:

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 10:16am:

Climate change has been with us since day dot, otherwise we would still be a rock of cooled lava.

Climate change has cycles, how do I know, look into our history.

Climate change is controlled by the elements of nature and physics, not by mans emission of CO2.

Otherwise it would have been apparent in our history.

http://i59.tinypic.com/35l6a2d.jpg

Anthropogenic Global Warming is climate change pornography so please no more bullshit.

The ice in the arctic today is about the same as it was in 1938.

It comes and goes in cycles.

Research the past to understand the future.

http://cecaust.com.au/global_warming/Big%20Arctic%20Melt.pdf

http://i60.tinypic.com/iymvpl.gif

Does Ajax believe in science or not Shocked

So you believe in science payed by big business and that make its true.

good luck in life champ.

ooouuurroooo.

The IPCC is payed by who? Shocked

United Nations who are owned by the World Bank.

Do you know who owns the World Bank?

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery & prison" Regas Feraeos

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Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this...
Reply #24 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 1:28pm

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:33pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 12:17pm:

Ajax wrote on Feb 8^th, 2015 at 10:16am:

Climate change has been with us since day dot, otherwise we would still be a rock of cooled lava.

Climate change has cycles, how do I know, look into our history.

Climate change is controlled by the elements of nature and physics, not by mans emission of CO2.

Otherwise it would have been apparent in our history.

http://i59.tinypic.com/35l6a2d.jpg

Anthropogenic Global Warming is climate change pornography so please no more bullshit.

The ice in the arctic today is about the same as it was in 1938.

It comes and goes in cycles.

Research the past to understand the future.

http://cecaust.com.au/global_warming/Big%20Arctic%20Melt.pdf

http://i60.tinypic.com/iymvpl.gif

Does Ajax believe in science or not Shocked

So you believe in science payed by big business and that make its true.

good luck in life champ.

ooouuurroooo.

The IPCC is payed by who? Shocked

United Nations who are owned by the World Bank.

Do you know who owns the World Bank?

You don't know much about whose work is in those reports do ya mate! Wink

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Reply #25 - Feb 8^th, 2015 at 1:35pm

How does the IPCC work?

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is a huge and yet very small organization. Thousands of scientists from all over the world contribute to the work of the IPCC on a voluntary basis as authors, contributors and reviewers. None of them is paid by the IPCC. The work of the IPCC is guided by a set

of principles and procedures.

http://www.ipcc.ch/organization/organization_structure.shtml

** You've got all sorts contributing including level 8s that work in government departments and took 30 to 40 years learning how to write and read scientific method/reports getting there... that aren't payed by the IPCC they just get their normal wage for their normal job!

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Reply #26 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 10:13am

The question was who pays the IPCC.

The answer is -

'The IPCC receives funding from UNEP, WMO, and its own Trust Fund for which it solicits contributions from governments. Its secretariat is hosted by the WMO, in Geneva.'

So taxpayers pay the IPCC via the UN.

One tenth of the Carbon Tax was to be remitted to the UN.

'The Gillard Government is party to a UN agreement which Climate Change Minister Greg Combet entered into in December at a meeting in Cancun, Mexico, under which about 10 per cent of carbon taxes in developed nations will go into a Green Climate Fund.'

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/8916664/carbon-tax-billions-to-help-poor-nat...

The Carbon Tax was supposed to be 'revenue neutral'. However, according to The Conversation, it was not.

'The carbon price will raise $24.5 billion over its first four years but will not be revenue neutral, putting the budget $4 billion in the red, the ABC reported.'

http://theconversation.com/the-carbon-tax-the-experts-respond-2254

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Reply #27 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 4:11pm

lee wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 10:13am:

The question was who pays the IPCC.

The answer is -

'The IPCC receives funding from UNEP, WMO, and its own Trust Fund for which it solicits contributions from governments. Its secretariat is hosted by the WMO, in Geneva.'

So taxpayers pay the IPCC via the UN.

One tenth of the Carbon Tax was to be remitted to the UN.

'The Gillard Government is party to a UN agreement which Climate Change Minister Greg Combet entered into in December at a meeting in Cancun, Mexico, under which about 10 per cent of carbon taxes in developed nations will go into a Green Climate Fund.'

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/8916664/carbon-tax-billions-to-help-poor-nat...

The Carbon Tax was supposed to be 'revenue neutral'. However, according to The Conversation, it was not.

'The carbon price will raise $24.5 billion over its first four years but will not be revenue neutral, putting the budget $4 billion in the red, the ABC reported.'

http://theconversation.com/the-carbon-tax-the-experts-respond-2254

Yes, but the scientists involved that actually write up and take the measurements are being accused of taking dodgy money and they aren't! They get their standard pay for their standard government job they have spent 30 years or longer working their way up the levels to get where they are!

There's a fair bit of method involved in those reports and those methods change.

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Reply #28 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:26pm

'Standard Government job'

Governments rule through fear- global cooling, nuclear winter, global warming. They use that fear to get elected or re-elected.

Scientists are a microcosm of society; replete with the rogues that plague humanity.

John Cook's 41 papers of those scientists that explicitly stated humans caused climate change not withstanding. He then added in others that intimated or mentioned cAGW to pad the number to reach 97%.

'are being accused of taking dodgy money and they aren't'

I haven't seen that, but I can't be absolutely sure it doesn't happen either. I mean the Koch Bros fund a lot of pro- AGW universities. Penn State being one.

So,if they aren't on the take are they incompetent? A la one, M Mann, treemometers and upside down Tiljander graphs?

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Reply #29 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:38pm

Wolseley wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 9:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:43pm:

Wolseley wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:

lee wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:

Wow - going down before AGW.