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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	It might be worth keeping an eye on this... Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 12:51am
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21603 Gender:	Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this... Reply #1 - Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:13pm Wow - going down before AGW. Scary for the alarmists.
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Wolseley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1453 Sydney Gender:	Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this... Reply #2 - Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:42pm lee wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:13pm: Wow - going down before AGW. I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this... Reply #3 - Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:43pm Wolseley wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:42pm: lee wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:13pm: Wow - going down before AGW. I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896. No, but it IS going down in 1953..
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Reply #4 - Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 9:07pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:43pm:

Wolseley wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:

lee wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:

Wow - going down before AGW.

I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896.

No, but it IS going down in 1953..

57 years after the theory of Global Warming was first put forward.

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Reply #5 - Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 9:14pm

Wolseley wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 9:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:43pm:

Wolseley wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:

lee wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:

Wow - going down before AGW.

I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896.

No, but it IS going down in 1953..

57 years after the theory of Global Warming was first put forward.

Well around that....although the 'theory of Global Warming' didn't get much traction until about the 1970s or so...

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #6 - Feb 3^rd, 2015 at 1:32am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 9:14pm:

Wolseley wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 9:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:43pm:

Wolseley wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:

lee wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2015 at 8:13pm:

Wow - going down before AGW.

I don't see the chart going back beyond 1896.

No, but it IS going down in 1953..

57 years after the theory of Global Warming was first put forward.

Well around that....although the 'theory of Global Warming' didn't get much traction until about the 1970s or so...

Is that why the nuclear industry was trying to use it to sell nuclear power in Perth in the 1960s?

Huh

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this... Reply #7 - Feb 3^rd, 2015 at 1:34am - has anyone got anymore data on snow decline in the australian alps... preferably in the last decade specifically?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21603 Gender:	Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this... Reply #8 - Feb 3^rd, 2015 at 9:19am I was talking IPCC inspired AGW which is since about 1970. The IPCC has previously said that the AGW until then was unmeasurable. Of course now it is still unmeasurable, it is merely a whole lot of averaging with error bars wider than the 'warming'.
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Reply #9 - Feb 5^th, 2015 at 3:42am

June snow cover and September sea ice extents: This graph shows sea ice and snow cover extents for the Northern Hemisphere from 1979 to 2012. The thick lines are 5-year running means. Note that the snow cover extent is for June (red) while the sea ice extent is for September (gray). Although both experienced overall declines, June snow cover decline exceeded September sea ice decline. Image adapted from Derksen and Brown 2012.

source: https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/sotc/snow_extent.html

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21603 Gender:	Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this... Reply #10 - Feb 5^th, 2015 at 5:39pm Or another view- this time anomalies http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2013/02/Figure41.png Unfortunately it is too large for the page. Of late the anomaly is for the most part positive.
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Reply #11 - Feb 5^th, 2015 at 5:49pm

Another view of Spencer Creek

Notes: This graph shows the depth of snow in the middle of August & September respectively (3rd week), over the period 1954-2012. The year to year variations are very evident in this graph. They do not seem to be predictable! The linear trendline shows no noticeable change to the avarage depth during August over the decades. But the peaks seem to be getting lower!

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/mpaine/snow.html#year_month

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this... Reply #12 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 2:04am I find it amazing lee showed that last graph with its commentary in full...
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Reply #13 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 2:04am

I find it amazing lee showed that last graph with its commentary in full... Shocked

... and sourced! Cheesy

lee wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 5:49pm:

Another view of Spencer Creek

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/mpaine/snow_aug_sep_54-12.jpg

Notes: This graph shows the depth of snow in the middle of August & September respectively (3rd week), over the period 1954-2012. The year to year variations are very evident in this graph. They do not seem to be predictable! The linear trendline shows no noticeable change to the avarage depth during August over the decades. But the peaks seem to be getting lower!

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/mpaine/snow.html#year_month

.. can't take it back now can ya mate Cheesy

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: It might be worth keeping an eye on this... Reply #14 - Feb 6^th, 2015 at 2:43am oi,... who's guessing the september trendline actually goes up
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