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Question: Who will (not should) win the QLD election?



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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #45 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:36am
 
Rosie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:56am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:12am:
Your dad will be proud



Maybe but I still don't know why so many people here are one eyed and would rather call each other names than put forward a reasonable alternative to what they disagree with.


Excellent comment Rosie.
Sadly that's how so many are.
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #46 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:42am
 
Rosie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:56am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:12am:
Your dad will be proud



Maybe but I still don't know why so many people here are one eyed and would rather call each other names than put forward a reasonable alternative to what they disagree with.


you take offense at someone saying your dady would be proud? Says more about you than Imspartacus ... you yourself said your dad told you never to vote labor .. he would be proud wouldn't he? 

You need it pointed out to you that the alternative is to not vote liberal?
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #47 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:57am
 
Rosie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:18am:
Well, if Newman loses his seat and someone else takes over his job they may manage a third term.  I'm afraid the man is too arrogant for my liking but I don't know who I would put in his place, I'll have to have a think about that one.


As you age, Grasshopper Rosie, you will learn that at the base of every politician is an arrogance.. it's just that in some it is well hidden for public consumption.  That arrogance is manifest in the very real idea they have that once elected they have some total power in our 'democracy' and some absolute 'mandate' to do as they wish even if it means breaking promises and launching policies never discussed before election, and then dictating those to the 'masses', which is why they can never be trusted.
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #48 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:59am
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:21am:
I voted against the 49 year lease extension option.



Good idea - that is a serious watering down of the Grappler Party policy initiative of ONLY leasing public assets for a limited time, and subject to stringent requirements, including  a proven track record of NOT raising prices beyond CPI.
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #49 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 12:24pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:42am:
Rosie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:56am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:12am:
Your dad will be proud



Maybe but I still don't know why so many people here are one eyed and would rather call each other names than put forward a reasonable alternative to what they disagree with.


you take offense at someone saying your dady would be proud? Says more about you than Imspartacus ... you yourself said your dad told you never to vote labor .. he would be proud wouldn't he? 

You need it pointed out to you that the alternative is to not vote liberal?


Hello John Smith, did I say I took offense?  If I did then I sure as hell didn't mean to.

To me my dad was rather special but then most dads are.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 11:57am:
Rosie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:18am:
Well, if Newman loses his seat and someone else takes over his job they may manage a third term.  I'm afraid the man is too arrogant for my liking but I don't know who I would put in his place, I'll have to have a think about that one.


As you age, Grasshopper Rosie, you will learn that at the base of every politician is an arrogance.. it's just that in some it is well hidden for public consumption.  That arrogance is manifest in the very real idea they have that once elected they have some total power in our 'democracy' and some absolute 'mandate' to do as they wish even if it means breaking promises and launching policies never discussed before election, and then dictating those to the 'masses', which is why they can never be trusted.


I don't know how old you think I am but I wouldn't mind betting I'm at least as old as you.

I don't agree with you that all politicians are arrogant, some are I'll grant you but not all.

Now I think it's time I shut up.
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #50 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 1:45pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:34am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:37am:
Poll - who WILL not who SHOULD win?

It just shows how deranged/ pathetic/ desperate the conga line are by taking positives out of winning an election in which they hold an eighty seat majority.



True. Only Labor should do that. This is progress.
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #51 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 1:51pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:28am:
so who's going to win...

if the Liberals win this will be a HUGE endorsement for Tony Abbott and his team  Smiley



No, it won't.

They'll probably win, but it certainly won't be an endorsement for Abbott.

The Mad Monk is finished.

(I'll be breaking out the Champagne if Campbell loses his seat)
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #52 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:09pm
 
Cods, I dunno where you get some of your ideas.....Clive is not a candidate in this election.  Fairfax is a Federal seat.

I've done my stint.  Party tonight at the Resort.
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #53 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 1:51pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 5:28am:
so who's going to win...

if the Liberals win this will be a HUGE endorsement for Tony Abbott and his team  Smiley



No, it won't.

They'll probably win, but it certainly won't be an endorsement for Abbott.

The Mad Monk is finished.

(I'll be breaking out the Champagne if Campbell loses his seat)


That's all I want, but there may be some surprises.  LNP will lose a great many seats.  Question is ~ who will win them.  Fat Lady enters and sings at 6.00 pm Qld time.
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Reply #54 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:14pm
 
Am I wrong in believing that the Queensland State Premier need not be a member of parliament?
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #55 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:21pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:14pm:
Am I wrong in believing that the Queensland State Premier need not be a member of parliament?


Commentators who know say....yes.  And funnily enough, the Prime Minister of Australia also need not be a Member of Parliament.  Howard was the latest example. Even though he lost his seat of Bennelong and was not longer an MP, he continued to be PM until Rudd was sworn in.
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #56 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:24pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 2:14pm:
Am I wrong in believing that the Queensland State Premier need not be a member of parliament?



An interesting question.  A similar thing happened to John Howard when he lost his seat.  He remained the "leader" until the new government was sworn in.   My understanding is that Newman could remain as premier for a short period, but within that time could be parachuted into a safe seat with a byelection
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #57 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 3:28pm
 
Rosie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:49am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 10:32am:
Rosie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:56am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 9:12am:
Your dad will be proud



Maybe but I still don't know why so many people here are one eyed and would rather call each other names than put forward a reasonable alternative to what they disagree with.
I thought there were. Sure there's lots of name calling but there's also lots of exchanging of ideas. Don't tell me you haven't noticed. And whats it matter to you anyways. Forgive me but just because you may recognise that your dad drummed into you to vote in the way he liked doesn't mean that you have escaped his dictates about how you vote and how you think about politics. It seems to me like your still making excuses for "coincidentally" voting the way he would approve.  Don't get me wrong. I don't vote because i don't believe that the system works to benefit the 99% anymore. It's just there to make us believe that we have a democracy. But if I was in Qld and tempted to vote it would be to get Newman out and at least delay the controlling elite's plan to steal your state owned assets for themselves.  See you should have worked that out for yourself but because your justifying voting the way your dad did 50 years ago (when the politics was different) your missing a lot of whats going on. Your all growd up now. Be yourself.


I'll have to start taking a serious look at some things around here.

If I'm not mistaken it was Anna Blight who started selling off the State assets.

I have, on occasion, done as you do and not voted at all, mainly because there wasn't a candidate I thought fit for the job but lets be honest that's not the way to fix things you believe are wrong. 

By the way one of my first "boyfriends" after I left the UK ended up an Australian Labour politician - ended up leaving in disgrace.  He was a sweet boy at 17.
Well if you were bedding as labor bloke you would know it all, right! Your reasoning? Anna Blight started the privatisation band wagon so so its not the LNPs fault for continuing it and so Rosie will vote for them just like Daddy said she should.  BTW why are you looking for a leader to vote for, Sounds like you found one in your Dad.  You know i know this may be difficult for you to comprehend but there are some of us who think that's its time to stop looking for leaders and start having confidence in yourself. But then again we get back to your dad right.
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #58 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 3:33pm
 
I did not like the privatisation idea under Bligh either. That is an example of why Party voting is for those with a vested interest, or just plain dim wits.
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Re: Queensland Election Poll
Reply #59 - Jan 31st, 2015 at 4:51pm
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:14am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 7:05am:
Rosie wrote on Jan 31st, 2015 at 6:55am:
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if the Liberals win this will be a HUGE endorsement for Tony Abbott and his team  Smiley



I don't know how you can say that when it will take a 12% swing for Labour to win.  There will be a big swing towards Labour and that won't be an endorsement for Tony Abbott and his team, more the opposite.


it was always going to swing back rosie, ....

the trick is to do a good job to hold government for the second term...

a third term will be even harder but if the Liberals stay on course, they'll have the budget back in the black by then...
Hey Rosie. Don't worry about these rusted ons. You can tell when the LNP conga line are desperate, they make up the most foolish arguments.  If there is a significant swing against the LNP and esp if Newman loses his seat Abort will have a hard time surviving. 


except that three years ago you would have predicted that Newman would struggle to hold his seat and there would be a large anti-LNP wing.  That was a dead-cert even then.
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