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Reply #150 - Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:09pm
 
Desperately deflecting Longy. If Howard “saved” $230Bn partly because of asset sales then so did Keating, and Howard spent Keatings ’ savings  Cheesy Cheesy

That is a nonsense and so is your claim that Howard saved $230Bn.

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Reply #151 - Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:53pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:29pm:
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longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 2:30pm:
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sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:23am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:08am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:03am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:52am:
Swagman wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:22am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:12am:
Who has the largest sovereign fund in the world again?  Why?


Oil is a totally different commodity to iron ore and coal.  It's highly inelastic demand and scarcity means that exorbitant super profit taxes do not scare away capital investment.


it is worth noting that the high taxes Norway imposes has currently rendered their oil industry unprofitable.  Oil may be inelastic but that is changing.  the massive increases in the quantity of retrievable oil has sent prices down and made it a buyers market.  you really CAN tax an oil industry away and we need to keep that in mind.

and yet they have a $700B sovereign wealth fund.   Talk all you want, the benefits are staring you right in the face. And all you can do is blabber about how Costello managed to finally pull Howard's fingers away from the coffers just long enough in order to save just a bit of what was possible if not for the lying rodent wasting it all away in order to stay elected.


so what?  They have had a highly profitable oil industry and they saved from it.  We had a profitable mining industry and we banked $230B from it. Which other govt has created a fund like that?  Only Howard. 


So, not only did they sit around and just be satisfied with taking corporate taxes from the funds, but you know what they did? Surprise, surprise - they incorporated an OIL TAX. And all the funds went into a SOVEREIGN FUND. Not the corporate taxes - just the OIL TAX.  $700 B!!!

We had a MASSIVE boom. Larger than Norway's oil boom.  Imagine what we would've pocketed? Oh wait..I forgot - Gina would moved to Somalia had it happened, and we'd have no one mining. Yeah right Grin

The lying rodent presided over the biggest boom we've ever had, and what did he do? Nothing!  It took Costello to save just a small portion of what would've been possible had we not had the biggest economic illiterate as PM.

And All I'm saying is that if we get the oil found in SA, we'd be wise to do the same as Norway, and not just worry about the pittance we'd receive in corporate tax, while international companies pillage the rest.


you persist on pretending that oil is like every other mineral when it clearly is not.  it is (or at least was) a super-important commodity in huge demand which was not found in many places and its demand is inelastic - unlike iron ore and coal.  if the mining boom had continued, our budget would be $200B better off.  If we hadn't had to put up with the rudd/gillard shambles we could have been another $100B-$200B better off.  There is another $400B we could have had.  but mining IS subject to ebbs and flows and elastic demand.

and as for the 'pittance' in company tax you need to learn that our company tax rate is among the highest in the world.

Australia doesn't have an oil export industry - yet.  So we have to work with what we have and to date the ONLY govt to ever save money, especially hundreds of Billions, was Howard.  and the biggest spender by far - BY FAR - was Rudd and Gillard.

you need to accept that Howard did a damned fine job which is why you wont find labor criticising him very much.  Instead, it is boofheads like you doing it.


So Longy, do you think the $1 Trillion that Norway have now generated, via its taxing Oil, is a pittance?

And, WHAT SHOULD OZ HAVE GENERATED, BY PROPERLY TAXING ITS FULL RANGE OF NATURAL RESOURCES???



we are all just waiting for you to tell us about Peak Oil and how there wont be any left by 2000.

So, I'll take that non answer as an admission that OZ should have accumulated $1 trillion, $2 trillion, $3 trillion OR MORE???

AND, what sort of position should that have now put us in???



Fantasy Island.  The island where you can tax companies 300% of their profit and they come back for more.  The Island where you can charge $5B tax on $1B worth of goods.

worst drivel you've come up with yet.


Really???
Then how did Norway get their $1 Trillion and they only had Oil to sell, we have had a lot more???

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Reply #152 - Jan 20th, 2015 at 10:07pm
 
Melanias purse wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:54pm:
That’s right, Alevine. We now know JuLiar was telling the truth the whole time.

Longy said so.

And he used his engineering maths book to come to that conclusion.  It must be right.
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Reply #153 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:21am
 
Rlongweekend58 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
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longweekend58 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:23pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:03pm:
Wow, some companies are EXPLORING.  Cheesy


you live here too gullible George.  you too should be pleased with the likelihood of massive oil revenues for our state.  Oil companies don't spend multiple BILLIONS on a whim.

another nail in the coffin called Peak Oil.

They're exploring. They haven't found anything yet. You're carrying on as if they've already found the oil.

Now grow up and stop trolling.




no they are more than exploring.  they are judging the EXTENT of an existing field.  And why the angst?  does it upset you that Australia may become a major oil exporter?


The only thing the Abort government will ensure is the profits will be exported and no aussie workers will be involved.
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Reply #154 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:52am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:09pm:
Desperately deflecting Longy. If Howard “saved” $230Bn partly because of asset sales then so did Keating, and Howard spent Keatings ’ savings  Cheesy Cheesy

That is a nonsense and so is your claim that Howard saved $230Bn.

QED


Keating left $96B of debt and a budget in deficit.  that is hardly a 'savings', even to a dipstick like you.
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Reply #155 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:52am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:29pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:14pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 2:30pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:46am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:23am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:08am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:03am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:52am:
Swagman wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:22am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 8:12am:
Who has the largest sovereign fund in the world again?  Why?


Oil is a totally different commodity to iron ore and coal.  It's highly inelastic demand and scarcity means that exorbitant super profit taxes do not scare away capital investment.


it is worth noting that the high taxes Norway imposes has currently rendered their oil industry unprofitable.  Oil may be inelastic but that is changing.  the massive increases in the quantity of retrievable oil has sent prices down and made it a buyers market.  you really CAN tax an oil industry away and we need to keep that in mind.

and yet they have a $700B sovereign wealth fund.   Talk all you want, the benefits are staring you right in the face. And all you can do is blabber about how Costello managed to finally pull Howard's fingers away from the coffers just long enough in order to save just a bit of what was possible if not for the lying rodent wasting it all away in order to stay elected.


so what?  They have had a highly profitable oil industry and they saved from it.  We had a profitable mining industry and we banked $230B from it. Which other govt has created a fund like that?  Only Howard. 


So, not only did they sit around and just be satisfied with taking corporate taxes from the funds, but you know what they did? Surprise, surprise - they incorporated an OIL TAX. And all the funds went into a SOVEREIGN FUND. Not the corporate taxes - just the OIL TAX.  $700 B!!!

We had a MASSIVE boom. Larger than Norway's oil boom.  Imagine what we would've pocketed? Oh wait..I forgot - Gina would moved to Somalia had it happened, and we'd have no one mining. Yeah right Grin

The lying rodent presided over the biggest boom we've ever had, and what did he do? Nothing!  It took Costello to save just a small portion of what would've been possible had we not had the biggest economic illiterate as PM.

And All I'm saying is that if we get the oil found in SA, we'd be wise to do the same as Norway, and not just worry about the pittance we'd receive in corporate tax, while international companies pillage the rest.


you persist on pretending that oil is like every other mineral when it clearly is not.  it is (or at least was) a super-important commodity in huge demand which was not found in many places and its demand is inelastic - unlike iron ore and coal.  if the mining boom had continued, our budget would be $200B better off.  If we hadn't had to put up with the rudd/gillard shambles we could have been another $100B-$200B better off.  There is another $400B we could have had.  but mining IS subject to ebbs and flows and elastic demand.

and as for the 'pittance' in company tax you need to learn that our company tax rate is among the highest in the world.

Australia doesn't have an oil export industry - yet.  So we have to work with what we have and to date the ONLY govt to ever save money, especially hundreds of Billions, was Howard.  and the biggest spender by far - BY FAR - was Rudd and Gillard.

you need to accept that Howard did a damned fine job which is why you wont find labor criticising him very much.  Instead, it is boofheads like you doing it.


So Longy, do you think the $1 Trillion that Norway have now generated, via its taxing Oil, is a pittance?

And, WHAT SHOULD OZ HAVE GENERATED, BY PROPERLY TAXING ITS FULL RANGE OF NATURAL RESOURCES???



we are all just waiting for you to tell us about Peak Oil and how there wont be any left by 2000.

So, I'll take that non answer as an admission that OZ should have accumulated $1 trillion, $2 trillion, $3 trillion OR MORE???

AND, what sort of position should that have now put us in???



Fantasy Island.  The island where you can tax companies 300% of their profit and they come back for more.  The Island where you can charge $5B tax on $1B worth of goods.

worst drivel you've come up with yet.


Really???
Then how did Norway get their $1 Trillion and they only had Oil to sell, we have had a lot more???



It was $700B, dopey.
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Reply #156 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 8:01am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:52am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:09pm:
Desperately deflecting Longy. If Howard “saved” $230Bn partly because of asset sales then so did Keating, and Howard spent Keatings ’ savings  Cheesy Cheesy

That is a nonsense and so is your claim that Howard saved $230Bn.

QED


Keating left $96B of debt and a budget in deficit.  that is hardly a 'savings', even to a dipstick like you.

And a PM who spent all the boomtime revenue without building anything lasting to improve the country is not a saver.
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Reply #157 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 8:30am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 8:01am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:52am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:09pm:
Desperately deflecting Longy. If Howard “saved” $230Bn partly because of asset sales then so did Keating, and Howard spent Keatings ’ savings  Cheesy Cheesy

That is a nonsense and so is your claim that Howard saved $230Bn.

QED


Keating left $96B of debt and a budget in deficit.  that is hardly a 'savings', even to a dipstick like you.

And a PM who spent all the boomtime revenue without building anything lasting to improve the country is not a saver.


he SAVED $230B while your beloved Labor OVERSPENT $350B and we have practically nothing to show for it.
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Reply #158 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 8:51am
 
Saved NOTHING! $350Bn of boomtime revenue just spent on pork, tax cuts, middleclass welfare.

The Gillard/Swan govt cut a lot of this wasteful spending out the Budget while funding a huge roadbuilding and other infrastructure work like the NBN.

Their problem, and now Abbott and Hokey’s problem, the Howard/Costello structural Budget deficit made a real cash deficit. Much more of Howard’s irresponsible spending needs to be cut out the Budget—$50Bn of savings there! Funny then that Abbott & Hokey are not doing that and thereby are bringing about a recession.

Abbott & Hokey doubled and tripled the deficit. Incompetent idiots!
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Reply #159 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:17am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:52am:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:29pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:14pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 2:30pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:46am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:23am:
[quote author=longweekend58 link=1421657187/75#75 date=1421716129]

So, not only did they sit around and just be satisfied with taking corporate taxes from the funds, but you know what they did? Surprise, surprise - they incorporated an OIL TAX. And all the funds went into a SOVEREIGN FUND. Not the corporate taxes - just the OIL TAX.  $700 B!!!

We had a MASSIVE boom. Larger than Norway's oil boom.  Imagine what we would've pocketed? Oh wait..I forgot - Gina would moved to Somalia had it happened, and we'd have no one mining. Yeah right Grin

The lying rodent presided over the biggest boom we've ever had, and what did he do? Nothing!  It took Costello to save just a small portion of what would've been possible had we not had the biggest economic illiterate as PM.

And All I'm saying is that if we get the oil found in SA, we'd be wise to do the same as Norway, and not just worry about the pittance we'd receive in corporate tax, while international companies pillage the rest.


you persist on pretending that oil is like every other mineral when it clearly is not.  it is (or at least was) a super-important commodity in huge demand which was not found in many places and its demand is inelastic - unlike iron ore and coal.  if the mining boom had continued, our budget would be $200B better off.  If we hadn't had to put up with the rudd/gillard shambles we could have been another $100B-$200B better off.  There is another $400B we could have had.  but mining IS subject to ebbs and flows and elastic demand.

and as for the 'pittance' in company tax you need to learn that our company tax rate is among the highest in the world.

Australia doesn't have an oil export industry - yet.  So we have to work with what we have and to date the ONLY govt to ever save money, especially hundreds of Billions, was Howard.  and the biggest spender by far - BY FAR - was Rudd and Gillard.

you need to accept that Howard did a damned fine job which is why you wont find labor criticising him very much.  Instead, it is boofheads like you doing it.


So Longy, do you think the $1 Trillion that Norway have now generated, via its taxing Oil, is a pittance?

And, WHAT SHOULD OZ HAVE GENERATED, BY PROPERLY TAXING ITS FULL RANGE OF NATURAL RESOURCES???



we are all just waiting for you to tell us about Peak Oil and how there wont be any left by 2000.

So, I'll take that non answer as an admission that OZ should have accumulated $1 trillion, $2 trillion, $3 trillion OR MORE???

AND, what sort of position should that have now put us in???



Fantasy Island.  The island where you can tax companies 300% of their profit and they come back for more.  The Island where you can charge $5B tax on $1B worth of goods.

worst drivel you've come up with yet.


Really???
Then how did Norway get their $1 Trillion and they only had Oil to sell, we have had a lot more???



It was $700B, dopey.



Actually, it IS, much closer to $1 Trillion, Longy Dopey!

According to the following article, from a few weeks ago, it was over $930 Billion.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-09/all-norwegians-become-millionaire-sharehol...

AND then, as usual, you have not addressed the question, "how did Norway get their $930-$1,000 Billion and they only had Oil to sell?

AND, how much could/should Australia have accrued, rather than the relatively small $100 Billion or so, particularly given we have/had a lot more Natural Resources???
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Reply #160 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:33am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:17am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:52am:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:29pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:14pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 2:30pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:46am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:23am:
[quote author=longweekend58 link=1421657187/75#75 date=1421716129]

So, not only did they sit around and just be satisfied with taking corporate taxes from the funds, but you know what they did? Surprise, surprise - they incorporated an OIL TAX. And all the funds went into a SOVEREIGN FUND. Not the corporate taxes - just the OIL TAX.  $700 B!!!

We had a MASSIVE boom. Larger than Norway's oil boom.  Imagine what we would've pocketed? Oh wait..I forgot - Gina would moved to Somalia had it happened, and we'd have no one mining. Yeah right Grin

The lying rodent presided over the biggest boom we've ever had, and what did he do? Nothing!  It took Costello to save just a small portion of what would've been possible had we not had the biggest economic illiterate as PM.

And All I'm saying is that if we get the oil found in SA, we'd be wise to do the same as Norway, and not just worry about the pittance we'd receive in corporate tax, while international companies pillage the rest.


you persist on pretending that oil is like every other mineral when it clearly is not.  it is (or at least was) a super-important commodity in huge demand which was not found in many places and its demand is inelastic - unlike iron ore and coal.  if the mining boom had continued, our budget would be $200B better off.  If we hadn't had to put up with the rudd/gillard shambles we could have been another $100B-$200B better off.  There is another $400B we could have had.  but mining IS subject to ebbs and flows and elastic demand.

and as for the 'pittance' in company tax you need to learn that our company tax rate is among the highest in the world.

Australia doesn't have an oil export industry - yet.  So we have to work with what we have and to date the ONLY govt to ever save money, especially hundreds of Billions, was Howard.  and the biggest spender by far - BY FAR - was Rudd and Gillard.

you need to accept that Howard did a damned fine job which is why you wont find labor criticising him very much.  Instead, it is boofheads like you doing it.


So Longy, do you think the $1 Trillion that Norway have now generated, via its taxing Oil, is a pittance?

And, WHAT SHOULD OZ HAVE GENERATED, BY PROPERLY TAXING ITS FULL RANGE OF NATURAL RESOURCES???



we are all just waiting for you to tell us about Peak Oil and how there wont be any left by 2000.

So, I'll take that non answer as an admission that OZ should have accumulated $1 trillion, $2 trillion, $3 trillion OR MORE???

AND, what sort of position should that have now put us in???



Fantasy Island.  The island where you can tax companies 300% of their profit and they come back for more.  The Island where you can charge $5B tax on $1B worth of goods.

worst drivel you've come up with yet.


Really???
Then how did Norway get their $1 Trillion and they only had Oil to sell, we have had a lot more???



It was $700B, dopey.



Actually, it IS, much closer to $1 Trillion, Longy Dopey!

According to the following article, from a few weeks ago, it was over $930 Billion.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-09/all-norwegians-become-millionaire-sharehol...

AND then, as usual, you have not addressed the question, "how did Norway get their $930-$1,000 Billion and they only had Oil to sell?

AND, how much could/should Australia have accrued, rather than the relatively small $100 Billion or so, particularly given we have/had a lot more Natural Resources???


Are you suggesting that the Norwegian wealth fund is something really good ?
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Reply #161 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:38am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 8:30am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 8:01am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:52am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 5:09pm:
Desperately deflecting Longy. If Howard “saved” $230Bn partly because of asset sales then so did Keating, and Howard spent Keatings ’ savings  Cheesy Cheesy

That is a nonsense and so is your claim that Howard saved $230Bn.

QED


Keating left $96B of debt and a budget in deficit.  that is hardly a 'savings', even to a dipstick like you.

And a PM who spent all the boomtime revenue without building anything lasting to improve the country is not a saver.


he SAVED $230B while your beloved Labor OVERSPENT $350B and we have practically nothing to show for it.


Would have been smarter to spend it on genuine infrastructure and not just The Road To Perdition... IF he really did save it - which is only on his books and nowhere else... her certainly didn't have it in a bank account....
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Reply #163 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:41am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:17am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 7:52am:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 9:53pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:29pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 4:14pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 2:30pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 1:05pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:46am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20th, 2015 at 11:23am:
[quote author=longweekend58 link=1421657187/75#75 date=1421716129]

So, not only did they sit around and just be satisfied with taking corporate taxes from the funds, but you know what they did? Surprise, surprise - they incorporated an OIL TAX. And all the funds went into a SOVEREIGN FUND. Not the corporate taxes - just the OIL TAX.  $700 B!!!

We had a MASSIVE boom. Larger than Norway's oil boom.  Imagine what we would've pocketed? Oh wait..I forgot - Gina would moved to Somalia had it happened, and we'd have no one mining. Yeah right Grin

The lying rodent presided over the biggest boom we've ever had, and what did he do? Nothing!  It took Costello to save just a small portion of what would've been possible had we not had the biggest economic illiterate as PM.

And All I'm saying is that if we get the oil found in SA, we'd be wise to do the same as Norway, and not just worry about the pittance we'd receive in corporate tax, while international companies pillage the rest.


you persist on pretending that oil is like every other mineral when it clearly is not.  it is (or at least was) a super-important commodity in huge demand which was not found in many places and its demand is inelastic - unlike iron ore and coal.  if the mining boom had continued, our budget would be $200B better off.  If we hadn't had to put up with the rudd/gillard shambles we could have been another $100B-$200B better off.  There is another $400B we could have had.  but mining IS subject to ebbs and flows and elastic demand.

and as for the 'pittance' in company tax you need to learn that our company tax rate is among the highest in the world.

Australia doesn't have an oil export industry - yet.  So we have to work with what we have and to date the ONLY govt to ever save money, especially hundreds of Billions, was Howard.  and the biggest spender by far - BY FAR - was Rudd and Gillard.

you need to accept that Howard did a damned fine job which is why you wont find labor criticising him very much.  Instead, it is boofheads like you doing it.


So Longy, do you think the $1 Trillion that Norway have now generated, via its taxing Oil, is a pittance?

And, WHAT SHOULD OZ HAVE GENERATED, BY PROPERLY TAXING ITS FULL RANGE OF NATURAL RESOURCES???



we are all just waiting for you to tell us about Peak Oil and how there wont be any left by 2000.

So, I'll take that non answer as an admission that OZ should have accumulated $1 trillion, $2 trillion, $3 trillion OR MORE???

AND, what sort of position should that have now put us in???



Fantasy Island.  The island where you can tax companies 300% of their profit and they come back for more.  The Island where you can charge $5B tax on $1B worth of goods.

worst drivel you've come up with yet.


Really???
Then how did Norway get their $1 Trillion and they only had Oil to sell, we have had a lot more???



It was $700B, dopey.



Actually, it IS, much closer to $1 Trillion, Longy Dopey!

According to the following article, from a few weeks ago, it was over $930 Billion.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-09/all-norwegians-become-millionaire-sharehol...

AND then, as usual, you have not addressed the question, "how did Norway get their $930-$1,000 Billion and they only had Oil to sell?

AND, how much could/should Australia have accrued, rather than the relatively small $100 Billion or so, particularly given we have/had a lot more Natural Resources???


Quote:
"Many countries have found that temporary large revenues from natural resource exploitation produce relatively short-lived booms that are followed by difficult adjustments," she said.


Remind us of anyone?  Maybe our politicians need 5 hours of sunlight only to get them to become smart?  Works in Norway.
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Re: South Australia: massive oil reserves discovered
Reply #164 - Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:44am
 
crocodile wrote on Jan 21st, 2015 at 11:33am:
Are you suggesting that the Norwegian wealth fund is something really good


you think it's not? they pay all their pensions on the interest alone.

not bad if you can accomplish it
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