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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #90 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:06am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:36am:

and that is merely opinion supported by nothing much in particular. Rudd was HATED, LOATHED and DETESTED by his colleagues as you well know. Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

and that is merely opinion

Yes my opinion in answer to your opinion ?

Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

More opinion - I see little evidence of this

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Actually, the absence of serious disunity and strife is the evidence you are (not) looking for.

so the day before Rudd was knifed he was liked by all? Cheesy

are you trying to prove my point for me???? The disunity and dislike of Rudd was the major reason for his removal and was well known to the public.

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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #91 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:06am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:36am:

and that is merely opinion supported by nothing much in particular. Rudd was HATED, LOATHED and DETESTED by his colleagues as you well know. Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

and that is merely opinion

Yes my opinion in answer to your opinion ?

Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

More opinion - I see little evidence of this

.

Actually, the absence of serious disunity and strife is the evidence you are (not) looking for.

so the day before Rudd was knifed he was liked by all? Cheesy

are you trying to prove my point for me???? The disunity and dislike of Rudd was the major reason for his removal and was well known to the public.

No it wasn't

The reason Gillard never got a fair go & 1 of the major factors that the Liberals played on was the surprise factor.

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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #92 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:26pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:06am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:36am:

and that is merely opinion supported by nothing much in particular. Rudd was HATED, LOATHED and DETESTED by his colleagues as you well know. Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

and that is merely opinion

Yes my opinion in answer to your opinion ?

Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

More opinion - I see little evidence of this

.

Actually, the absence of serious disunity and strife is the evidence you are (not) looking for.

so the day before Rudd was knifed he was liked by all? Cheesy

are you trying to prove my point for me???? The disunity and dislike of Rudd was the major reason for his removal and was well known to the public.

No it wasn't

The reason Gillard never got a fair go & 1 of the major factors that the Liberals played on was the surprise factor.

serious??? Rudd has sky-high personal popularity with the electorate as well as a leading position in the polls for the ALP. he was removed because he was HATED. no other reason make sense.

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt... Reply #93 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:43pm Sorry should have highlighted longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm: and was well known to the public. His removal wasn't even well known in the party as witnessed by the reactions of backbenchers to ABC reporters.
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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #94 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:46pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:43pm:

Sorry should have highlighted

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

and was well known to the public.

His removal wasn't even well known in the party as witnessed by the reactions of backbenchers to ABC reporters.

what kind of evidence is that? Or are you going to contend that Rudd was not and still is loathed by almost everyone in the ALP? IN 2013 he could hardly find enough people to fill cabinet. Everyone else refused.

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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #95 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:55pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:43pm:

Sorry should have highlighted

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

and was well known to the public.

His removal wasn't even well known in the party as witnessed by the reactions of backbenchers to ABC reporters.

what kind of evidence is that? Or are you going to contend that Rudd was not and still is loathed by almost everyone in the ALP? IN 2013 he could hardly find enough people to fill cabinet. Everyone else refused.

What are you not understanding???
I'm not sticking up for Rudd, I'm not saying he wasn't disliked

You put forward his dismissal was well known by the public & also the public knew his was universally hated within.

It might fit your narrative now but that does not change the fact its crap.

More chance of me being leader as becoming full forward.
How many times did you post that quote??

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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #96 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 4:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:06am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:36am:

and that is merely opinion supported by nothing much in particular. Rudd was HATED, LOATHED and DETESTED by his colleagues as you well know. Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

and that is merely opinion

Yes my opinion in answer to your opinion ?

Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

More opinion - I see little evidence of this

.

Actually, the absence of serious disunity and strife is the evidence you are (not) looking for.

so the day before Rudd was knifed he was liked by all? Cheesy

are you trying to prove my point for me???? The disunity and dislike of Rudd was the major reason for his removal and was well known to the public.

No it wasn't

The reason Gillard never got a fair go & 1 of the major factors that the Liberals played on was the surprise factor.

serious??? Rudd has sky-high personal popularity with the electorate as well as a leading position in the polls for the ALP. he was removed because he was HATED. no other reason make sense.

well, he got dumped for some serious reasons.
Whatever it was.

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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #97 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 4:29pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:43pm:

Sorry should have highlighted

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

and was well known to the public.

His removal wasn't even well known in the party as witnessed by the reactions of backbenchers to ABC reporters.

what kind of evidence is that? Or are you going to contend that Rudd was not and still is loathed by almost everyone in the ALP? IN 2013 he could hardly find enough people to fill cabinet. Everyone else refused.

What are you not understanding???
I'm not sticking up for Rudd, I'm not saying he wasn't disliked

You put forward his dismissal was well known by the public & also the public knew his was universally hated within.

It might fit your narrative now but that does not change the fact its crap.

More chance of me being leader as becoming full forward.
How many times did you post that quote??

The public knew Rudd was disliked by much of cabinet before his knifing. It was only after that we realised that 'dislike' was more like 'hatred'. How does that changed the narrative except by degree?

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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #98 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:06am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:36am:

and that is merely opinion supported by nothing much in particular. Rudd was HATED, LOATHED and DETESTED by his colleagues as you well know. Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

and that is merely opinion

Yes my opinion in answer to your opinion ?

Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

More opinion - I see little evidence of this

.

Actually, the absence of serious disunity and strife is the evidence you are (not) looking for.

so the day before Rudd was knifed he was liked by all? Cheesy

are you trying to prove my point for me???? The disunity and dislike of Rudd was the major reason for his removal and was well known to the public.

it was welll known AFTER he was knifed .... hindsights a beautiful thing isn't it? Cheesy

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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #99 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:07pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 3:43pm:

Sorry should have highlighted

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

and was well known to the public.

His removal wasn't even well known in the party as witnessed by the reactions of backbenchers to ABC reporters.

what kind of evidence is that? Or are you going to contend that Rudd was not and still is loathed by almost everyone in the ALP? IN 2013 he could hardly find enough people to fill cabinet. Everyone else refused.

What are you not understanding???
I'm not sticking up for Rudd, I'm not saying he wasn't disliked

You put forward his dismissal was well known by the public & also the public knew his was universally hated within.

It might fit your narrative now but that does not change the fact its crap.

More chance of me being leader as becoming full forward.
How many times did you post that quote??

The public knew Rudd was disliked by much of cabinet before his knifing. It was only after that we realised that 'dislike' was more like 'hatred'. How does that changed the narrative except by degree?

what a load of bollocks ... you just make this poo up as you go don't you? No one knew that Rudd wasn't liked ... sure there may have been one or two rumblings, there always are, there are even rumblings about Abbott now .. to try and turn that into a 'the public knew he was disliked' is the sort of bullsheat only you would try.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt... Reply #100 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:44pm I am public, I knew
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt... Reply #101 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:45pm miketrees wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:44pm: I am public, I knew you knew that he was disliked by much of his cabinet? bollocks.
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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #102 - Jan 8^th, 2015 at 8:39am

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:03pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:33am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 11:06am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:36am:

and that is merely opinion supported by nothing much in particular. Rudd was HATED, LOATHED and DETESTED by his colleagues as you well know. Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

and that is merely opinion

Yes my opinion in answer to your opinion ?

Abbott appears to be genuinely liked by most of his.

More opinion - I see little evidence of this

.

Actually, the absence of serious disunity and strife is the evidence you are (not) looking for.

so the day before Rudd was knifed he was liked by all? Cheesy

are you trying to prove my point for me???? The disunity and dislike of Rudd was the major reason for his removal and was well known to the public.

it was welll known AFTER he was knifed .... hindsights a beautiful thing isn't it? Cheesy

you are not seriously going to contend that the public though the the rudd govt wasn't racked by disunity, are you? Memory of a goldfish notwithstanding, it was a major public scandal... BEFORE he was knifed.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt... Reply #103 - Jan 8^th, 2015 at 8:39am John Smith wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:45pm: miketrees wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:44pm: I am public, I knew you knew that he was disliked by much of his cabinet? bollocks. EVERYONE KNEW you idiot.
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Re: It wouldn't be Labor if we weren't in debt...
Reply #104 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 8:03am

It is amusing if also a little sad listening to the laborites with their goldfish memories pretending that no body knew Rudd was disliked by colleagues before the knifing. After a couple of years of repeated public disunity beforehand, these selective-memory dolts now want to contend that it was a secret when it was actually repeated front page news.

sad little laborites.

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