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Reply #75 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:55pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:20pm:
Big Donger wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:13pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Longy has a big mouth that he exercises often. Pity it is not backed by facts. Question him and you get abuse.


Just as long as he doesn't call you an idiot. We all know what that means.

Longy wants you killed:

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as sad as it sounds, what some idiots in this country need are a successful terrorist attack so they can shut up and the rest of us can go on protecting the country without having to listen to their faux outrage.



poor karnal... now I why why you have spent so much time posting in an attempt to be funny.  when you try being serious you expose how much of a really dumb lefty twat that you are.


Sorry, Longy, are you disagreeing with something?

Please explain. We’re all friends here, you know.

Is Joe Hockey a lefty twat too?
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Reply #76 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:55pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:13pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Longy has a big mouth that he exercises often. Pity it is not backed by facts. Question him and you get abuse.


Just as long as he doesn't call you an idiot. We all know what that means.

Longy wants you killed:

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as sad as it sounds, what some idiots in this country need are a successful terrorist attack so they can shut up and the rest of us can go on protecting the country without having to listen to their faux outrage.

That is about average for a Christian.

You cannot trust a christian with your wife or daughter or your wallet. Christians really are the worst!
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Reply #77 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:57pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 2:12pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 1:37pm:
Tax cuts do not stimulate spending, except tax cuts to low income earners. The tripling of the tax free threshold saw lots more people take up work, mostly part time, and so spend more.

A GST taxes consumption and so depresses consumption in tough times, like now.



that is so stupid there need to be a better word for just how ignorantly foolish that statement is.

That is just you shooting of your mouth.

Got any links or argument to back up your big mouth? Hint: consider the concept of discretionary income. I awaited with bated breath, bwahahahahahahahaha!
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Reply #78 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:58pm
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:55pm:
Big Donger wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:13pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Longy has a big mouth that he exercises often. Pity it is not backed by facts. Question him and you get abuse.


Just as long as he doesn't call you an idiot. We all know what that means.

Longy wants you killed:

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as sad as it sounds, what some idiots in this country need are a successful terrorist attack so they can shut up and the rest of us can go on protecting the country without having to listen to their faux outrage.

That is about average for a Christian.

You cannot trust a christian with your wife or daughter or your wallet. Christians really are the worst!


True, but I think Longy’s a mathematician.

As sad as it sounds.
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Reply #79 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:05pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 1:02pm:
On the mining tax there was gross mismanagement from Whitlam through to Keating. The mining tax should have been set up during Fraser's watch, instead he thought foreign cost toll operations, transfer pricing and world parity pricing were better ideas, they had negative effects  on our economy. Even a senate committee comprising libs and labs investigating foreign mining and processing involvement in 1980 drew the same conclusion ... they got it wrong. And now, latter day politicians are whinging their heads off

Keating was the last chance to fix it but he was too ignorant and cracked in the head

A small tax imposed then, would be many extra billions by now, excluding wasteful spending of course 

As a result of their shortsightedness at that time, Swan had no hope, the foreign multinationals had become too strong and influential, given international business policies that generally over-ride our sovereignty. Our politicians now think "International" more than "National" and have become weaker, John Howard will tell you ... "It's hard to govern with diminishing sovereignty", he said

Swan and Gillard had no chance because of the way Rudd handled the Henry report:sat on it for 18 months then a few weeks before the election announced a 40% superprofits tax? Recipe for failure!

The MRRT was popular tho.
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Reply #80 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:05pm
 
Bam wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:47pm:


the term came from Ronald Reagan who took an American economy that was moribund and turned it into a dynamo.  The results say the complete opposite.

in your world of idiocy turning profitable companies into loss-making enterprises will improve the lot of the workers.  Only George and perhaps Pansi cant see how stupid that is.
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Reply #81 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:06pm
 
Big Donger wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:58pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:55pm:
Big Donger wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:13pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Longy has a big mouth that he exercises often. Pity it is not backed by facts. Question him and you get abuse.


Just as long as he doesn't call you an idiot. We all know what that means.

Longy wants you killed:

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as sad as it sounds, what some idiots in this country need are a successful terrorist attack so they can shut up and the rest of us can go on protecting the country without having to listen to their faux outrage.

That is about average for a Christian.

You cannot trust a christian with your wife or daughter or your wallet. Christians really are the worst!


True, but I think Longy’s a mathematician.

As sad as it sounds.

I better not say what I think of Longy, Andrea would ban me for 100 years.
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Reply #82 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:12pm
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:06pm:
Big Donger wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:58pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:55pm:
Big Donger wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:13pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Longy has a big mouth that he exercises often. Pity it is not backed by facts. Question him and you get abuse.


Just as long as he doesn't call you an idiot. We all know what that means.

Longy wants you killed:

Quote:
as sad as it sounds, what some idiots in this country need are a successful terrorist attack so they can shut up and the rest of us can go on protecting the country without having to listen to their faux outrage.

That is about average for a Christian.

You cannot trust a christian with your wife or daughter or your wallet. Christians really are the worst!


True, but I think Longy’s a mathematician.

As sad as it sounds.

I better not say what I think of Longy, Andrea would ban me for 100 years.


Some posters say too much. The lovely new member Sarah was banned for saying nothing at all.

I do look forward to her return. She makes Longy look positively sub-moronic.
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Reply #83 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:19pm
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:06pm:
Big Donger wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:58pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:55pm:
Big Donger wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:13pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 4:45pm:
Longy has a big mouth that he exercises often. Pity it is not backed by facts. Question him and you get abuse.


Just as long as he doesn't call you an idiot. We all know what that means.

Longy wants you killed:

Quote:
as sad as it sounds, what some idiots in this country need are a successful terrorist attack so they can shut up and the rest of us can go on protecting the country without having to listen to their faux outrage.

That is about average for a Christian.

You cannot trust a christian with your wife or daughter or your wallet. Christians really are the worst!


True, but I think Longy’s a mathematician.

As sad as it sounds.

I better not say what I think of Longy, Andrea would ban me for 100 years.


based on your efforts so far on here and the almost unbelievable ignorance and depth of stupidity you demonstrate, I doubt you could even articulate it properly.

You could actually top SOB for stupidest poster ever and most people would consider that almost impossible.
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Reply #84 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:26pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:05pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:47pm:


the term came from Ronald Reagan who took an American economy that was moribund and turned it into a dynamo.  The results say the complete opposite.

Ah, longynomics, I wondered when this would appear.

"Trickle down" is a myth that has been refuted many times. Even conservatives who understand economics don't accept it - they are more likely to advocate a free market and individual enterprise rather than relying on the totally false trickle down theory.

Only conservatives with no understanding of economics ever defend trickle down economics.
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in your world of idiocy turning profitable companies into loss-making enterprises will improve the lot of the workers.  Only George and perhaps Pansi cant see how stupid that is.

A straw man. Not surprising that you would make up yet another lie and falsely attribute it to me. This sort of lying crap is why you have no credibility here.
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Reply #85 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:32pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:05pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:47pm:


the term came from Ronald Reagan who took an American economy that was moribund and turned it into a dynamo.  The results say the complete opposite.


Yes, Longy, the Savings and Loans crisis followed by the 1987 stock market crash and its subsequent recession are stellar results.

The truth, however, is that Reagan did not dramatically lower taxes or red tape - nor did his successor, George H W Bush, who was ousted after one term for not delivering on his promised tax cuts.

It was left to Clinton to deliver a surplus, only to be followed by George W Bush, who gave it all away in tax cuts to the rich while continuing to spend big.

The legacy of what is known as Reaganomics is the current level of US debt and the highest wealth inequality in American history. It’s such a problem, the rich themselves are demanding to be taxed more, with billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet screaming out for change.

And not because they’re nice, but because they sell things and employ people. Poverty and wealth inequality are not good for business. All that money going to the top 1% is dollars taken out of the market for goods and services. In the US, that 1% owns 40% of the wealth.

By comparison, the bottom 80% own just 7%.

As a mathematician, of course, you know all this, you’re just too polite to say.

You don’t want to hurt poor people’s feelings.
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Reply #86 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:34pm
 
Bam wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 6:05pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:47pm:


the term came from Ronald Reagan who took an American economy that was moribund and turned it into a dynamo.  The results say the complete opposite.

Ah, longynomics, I wondered when this would appear.

"Trickle down" is a myth that has been refuted many times. Even conservatives who understand economics don't accept it - they are more likely to advocate a free market and individual enterprise rather than relying on the totally false trickle down theory.

Only conservatives with no understanding of economics ever defend trickle down economics.
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in your world of idiocy turning profitable companies into loss-making enterprises will improve the lot of the workers.  Only George and perhaps Pansi cant see how stupid that is.

A straw man. Not surprising that you would make up yet another lie and falsely attribute it to me. This sort of lying crap is why you have no credibility here.



your problem however is that was at the core of REagonomics - a policy that revitalised a nations economy.  in the end, it is rather hard to argue with stellar results. you don't have to like it, but you don't get to say it didn't happen.


of course you could always point me to a highly successful left-wing run economy based on your ideas.  Might be on on Mars because there sure ain't one on earth.
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Reply #87 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 8:51pm
 
Bam wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:47pm:


Amusing photo Bam but I can use the same image to demonstrate trickle down economics in our ochlocratic taxation system.

...

The vast majority of tax is paid by the top 25% of taxpayers.  It funds the welfare handouts to the socalled poor.  The top 25% of taxpayers pay for the lion's share of the individual's cost of govt.

The more successful the top 25% are the more tax is stolen by the ochlocrats.

PLAINLY the downtrodden benefit from trickle down.

If you don't agree then deduct the 67% of personal income tax the top 25% pay and try and fund your budget.... Roll Eyes Huh Huh

Huh
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Reply #88 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 9:06pm
 
Swagman wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 8:51pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:47pm:


Amusing photo Bam but I can use the same image to demonstrate trickle down economics in our ochlocratic taxation system.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/shareoftax.jpg

The vast majority of tax is paid by the top 25% of taxpayers.

The top 20% to 25% pay more tax because they earn more money and have most of the wealth. Why do you always ignore this basic truth? It's been pointed out to you numerous times, so I can only conclude that you are telling half the story in order to mislead wilfully.

If you're alleging that the top 25% pay 67% of the tax, I want you to cite a source. They are earning more than 67% of the income.

In your feeble effort to misrepresent the diagram for your nefarious campaign of misleading, you have also forgotten that the bottom glasses are all empty because the top income earners are stealing all the wealth.

Fail.
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Reply #89 - Dec 22nd, 2014 at 9:11pm
 
Swagman wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 8:51pm:
Bam wrote on Dec 22nd, 2014 at 5:47pm:


Amusing photo Bam but I can use the same image to demonstrate trickle down economics in our ochlocratic taxation system.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/shareoftax.jpg

The vast majority of tax is paid by the top 25% of taxpayers.  It funds the welfare handouts to the socalled poor.  The top 25% of taxpayers pay for the lion's share of the individual's cost of govt.

The more successful the top 25% are the more tax is stolen by the ochlocrats.

PLAINLY the downtrodden benefit from trickle down.

If you don't agree then deduct the 67% of personal income tax the top 25% pay and try and fund your budget.... Roll Eyes Huh Huh

Huh


Be careful, Swagman, you’ll have Longy on your case for dodgy maths in a sec.

Where does your 25% figure actually come from?
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