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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Prepare to be educated righties Dec 20^th, 2014 at 11:48pm https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2014/12/20/how-john-howards-ta... Hewson smashes what you think you know to pieces .
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Prepare to be educated righties Reply #1 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:12am Don't the righties have anything to say on this story , let me guess Hewson couldn't calculate gst on a cake. Of course you're much smarter than Hewson righties
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Prepare to be educated righties Reply #2 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:20am It can't be howard's fault, it has to be labor's fault. Aye righties.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Prepare to be educated righties Reply #3 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:28am Is there a particular quote or topic from the article you wanted to discuss? Just sh\|tting a link onto the screen along with a vague challenge doesn't exactly invite discussion.
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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: Prepare to be educated righties Reply #4 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:31am ... wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:28am: Is there a particular quote or topic from the article you wanted to discuss? Just sh\|tting a link onto the screen along with a vague challenge doesn't exactly invite discussion. little wisdom brain believes we should be educated from an OPINION PIECE, Another leftie lunatic
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Reply #5 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:54am

stryder wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:31am:

... wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:28am:

Is there a particular quote or topic from the article you wanted to discuss?

Just sh|tting a link onto the screen along with a vague challenge doesn't exactly invite discussion.

little wisdom brain believes we should be educated from an OPINION PIECE, Grin

Another leftie lunatic

You shouldn't have any problems debunking it then , oh wait, you can't Cheesy

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Reply #6 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:55am

Its time wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:54am:

stryder wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:31am:

... wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:28am:

Is there a particular quote or topic from the article you wanted to discuss?

Just sh|tting a link onto the screen along with a vague challenge doesn't exactly invite discussion.

little wisdom brain believes we should be educated from an OPINION PIECE, Grin

Another leftie lunatic

You shouldn't have any problems debunking it then , oh wait, you can't Cheesy

Its an opinion piece ?? not truth

Whats there to debunk, little wisdom ?????

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Prepare to be educated righties Reply #7 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 10:18am Hey..we all know that Howard was pretty stupid with his welfare hand outs and tax cuts based on a short term influx of cash from the once in a lifetime Chinese boom. Howard never thought past each election cycle and now we are all paying for it
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Reply #8 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 10:27am

Yes, it isn’t opinion but fact that Howard & Costello created a large structural Budget deficit that since the GFC turned into large cash deficits. The Costello (and the Rudd) tax cuts need to be wound back some and Howard’s irresponsible spending completely removed.

The fact that the household sector has high debt means deficits are the right Budget setting right now.

The fact that Dollar $weety did’t get that high paying job he expected to get underlines the truth of the above.

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Reply #9 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 2:55pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 10:18am:

Hey..we all know that Howard was pretty stupid with his welfare hand outs and tax cuts based on a short term influx of cash from the once in a lifetime Chinese boom.

Howard never thought past each election cycle and now we are all paying for it

Yeah yeah, but Labor had 6 years to reverse the Coalition's tax cuts.

Instead Labor just spent as if they had reversed them. Grin

Yes. we are paying for that (those that pay net tax that is) Sad

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Reply #10 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 3:00pm

That effort began more than a decade ago when John Howard and Hockey’s predecessor, Peter Costello, ran the most profligate government in Australian history

John Hewson, former Liberal leader, economist and now professor with the Crawford School of Public Policy at the Australian National University, underlines the point: “The tax cuts Howard and Costello gave are now costing [the budget] about $30 billion a year, and the deficit’s $40 billion.”

Without those cuts and the $9 billion Hockey gave – unasked for and against the will of treasury – to the Reserve Bank, says Hewson, “the deficit problem wouldn’t exist

And that’s without including some $40 billion in tax concessions for superannuation, which accrue overwhelmingly to the wealthiest 20 per cent of taxpayers.

The libs are economic vandals

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Prepare to be educated righties Reply #11 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 3:46pm John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 3:00pm: And that’s without including some $40 billion in tax concessions for superannuation, which accrue overwhelmingly to the wealthiest 20 per cent of taxpayers The only ones that pay net tax anyway....
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Reply #12 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 4:43pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 3:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 3:00pm:

And that’s without including some $40 billion in tax concessions for superannuation, which accrue overwhelmingly to the wealthiest 20 per cent of taxpayers

The only ones that pay net tax anyway....

so we spend more money than our whole pension system? didn't we have a budget emergency?

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Reply #13 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 5:10pm

It is just another wannabe PM lamenting how everything would have been better if HE had been in charge. Howards tax cuts weren't even actual cuts but merely manually keeping tax indexation.

And is there anyone who really believes that if there were another $30Bpa available, that Rudd and Gillard wouldn't have spent that well before now?

and if the argument were true then it does not explain Rudd giving further tax cuts and neither labor buffoon removing them.

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Reply #14 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 5:12pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 4:43pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 3:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 3:00pm:

And that’s without including some $40 billion in tax concessions for superannuation, which accrue overwhelmingly to the wealthiest 20 per cent of taxpayers

The only ones that pay net tax anyway....

so we spend more money than our whole pension system? didn't we have a budget emergency?

Maybe the question you should be asking is why NO ONE from either party is suggesting removing this concession. Perhaps they know something you don't? for starters, if you remove the concession there is absolutely ZERO reason to put money into super, none at all. so what happens come retirement time??? NOT ENOUGH MONEY.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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