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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #135 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:21pm

bambu wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:18pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

I'll be happy to see both Chan and Sukumuran dead.

Then you really should hand in your Australian citizenship and passport and go live somewhere else.

I do live somewhere else but I refuse to give up my Australian citizenship because I refuse to support drug dealers and smugglers.
They knew the risk and they knew the consequences.
The others were dumb mules. Those two were the planners.

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Reply #136 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:26pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

bambu wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:18pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

I'll be happy to see both Chan and Sukumuran dead.

Then you really should hand in your Australian citizenship and passport and go live somewhere else.

I do live somewhere else but I refuse to give up my Australian citizenship because I refuse to support drug dealers and smugglers.
They knew the risk and they knew the consequences.
The others were dumb mules. Those two were the planners.

Nobody else here is supporting drug dealers and smugglers either.

Opposing the death penalty isn't the same as supporting drug dealers. You do understand that, don't you?

Or, are you one of these ignorant fools who "thinks" it's either 'kill them', or 'let them go'?

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Reply #137 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:28pm

The real tragedy is Carlton and United brewery has destroyed a thousand times more lives than any drug dealer ever will.
Unfortunately we live our lives inside a government approved gladiator arena where they get to decide who the villians and heros are and who we should hate.
One day peoples minds will really be set free, unfortunately that day is no going to be any time soon. Cry

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #138 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:29pm Nope I don't think anyone should be let go. I think those two should die. The others should serve considerable time in jail. Pretty much in sync with what the justice system has decide.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 143925 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #139 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:30pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:29pm: Nope I don't think anyone should be let go. Neither does anyone else. You seem to be arguing with yourself.
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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #140 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:30pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

Nope I don't think anyone should be let go.

Either does anyone else.

You seem to be arguing with yourself.

Hardly. Some of softies want us to give a pass to those two on their sentence.
Nope. They are being executed and I for one applaud the stance of Indonesia.

Your stance coupled with allowing anyone to claim to be a refugee shows you're one for a sob story.

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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #141 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:36pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:30pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

Nope I don't think anyone should be let go.

Neither does anyone else.

You seem to be arguing with yourself.

Hardly. Some of softies want us to give a pass to those two on their sentence.

No, you're telling lies.

Absolutely nobody has said that they should be "let go".

Stop telling lies.

What do you hope to gain from telling these lies?

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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #142 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:36pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:30pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

Nope I don't think anyone should be let go.

Neither does anyone else.

You seem to be arguing with yourself.

Hardly. Some of softies want us to give a pass to those two on their sentence.

No, you're telling lies.

Absolutely nobody has said that they should be "let go".

Stop telling lies.

What do you hope to gain from telling these lies?

They no longer deserve to live. That is their sentence.

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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #143 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:40pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

Your stance coupled with allowing anyone to claim to be a refugee shows you're one for a sob story.

Thank you for displaying your astounding ignorance.

Anybody can claim asylum (that's a fact), however, that doesn't mean that they are necessarily refugees.

Perhaps you should learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees' before you post another comment on that subject.

Moreover, you should also learn that opposing the death penalty isn't the same as opposing all punishment.

You're rarely taken seriously in this forum, and your last couple of posts have done you no favours.

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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #144 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 8:47pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:30pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

Nope I don't think anyone should be let go.

Either does anyone else.

You seem to be arguing with yourself.

Hardly. Some of softies want us to give a pass to those two on their sentence.
Nope. They are being executed and I for one applaud the stance of Indonesia.

Your stance coupled with allowing anyone to claim to be a refugee shows you're one for a sob story.

Well said, he is just trying to rile you, you are correct in what you say and how you say it, keep up the good posts.

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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #145 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 8:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:40pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

Your stance coupled with allowing anyone to claim to be a refugee shows you're one for a sob story.

Thank you for displaying your astounding ignorance.

Anybody can claim asylum (that's a fact), however, that doesn't mean that they are necessarily refugees.

Perhaps you should learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees' before you post another comment on that subject.

Moreover, you should also learn that opposing the death penalty isn't the same as opposing all punishment.

You're rarely taken seriously in this forum, and your last couple of posts have done you no favours.

I'm not certain you reflect the learned experience of the forum, you appear to be the one out of step with the broader consensus. The ignorance you make reference to is not warranted, back off. All is well if all came make their posts without thinking that they are out of step. Be well.

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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #146 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 5:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 7:06pm:

you certainly can't blame the Indonesians for enforcing their laws.

We can certainly criticise them for having barbaric laws.

Everyone knows the penalties with regard to drugs in Indonesia. It's no secret that they have and use the death penalty. Only a complete fool would even contemplate having anything to do with drugs in Indonesia. I have zero sympathy for those on death row.

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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #147 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:20am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 5:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 7:06pm:

you certainly can't blame the Indonesians for enforcing their laws.

We can certainly criticise them for having barbaric laws.

Everyone knows the penalties with regard to drugs in Indonesia. It's no secret that they have and use the death penalty. Only a complete fool would even contemplate having anything to do with drugs in Indonesia. I have zero sympathy for those on death row.

People make foolish decisions all the time.
Some make more foolish decisions than others.

The only perfect person who ever walked on earth was the man with the holes in His hands and feet.
Everyone else has sinned.

Gee, the way Indonesia carries on, cold-bloodedly killing human beings in death chambers...you'd think it was sinless itself.
Far from it;
Kerobokan prison in Bali is reportedly awash with drugs...year, after year, after year.
Wonder how that happens exactly?

Indonesia...ranked one of the most corrupt countries on earth;

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/dec/05/corruption-index-2012-trans...

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When they execution-slaughter/torture to death the two Aussie boys, Australia should sever all ties with Indonesia forever...and never again be associated with such a place.

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aquascoot Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 36187 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #148 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:23am I'm a bit busy to read this thread but basically, whatever Gweggy has said, just take it that I have the exact opposite view. That is all
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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #149 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:28am

bambu wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:20am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 5:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 7:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 7:06pm:

you certainly can't blame the Indonesians for enforcing their laws.

We can certainly criticise them for having barbaric laws.

Everyone knows the penalties with regard to drugs in Indonesia. It's no secret that they have and use the death penalty. Only a complete fool would even contemplate having anything to do with drugs in Indonesia. I have zero sympathy for those on death row.

People make foolish decisions all the time.
Some make more foolish decisions than others.

The only perfect person who ever walked on earth was the man with the holes in His hands and feet.
Everyone else has sinned.

Gee, the way Indonesia carries on, cold-bloodedly killing human beings in death chambers...you'd think it was sinless itself.
Far from it;
Kerobokan prison in Bali is reportedly awash with drugs...year, after year, after year.
Wonder how that happens exactly?

Indonesia...ranked one of the most corrupt countries on earth;

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/dec/05/corruption-index-2012-trans...

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When they execution-slaughter/torture to death the two Aussie boys, Australia should sever all ties with Indonesia forever...and never again be associated with such a place.

I'm not saying Indonesia is right or wrong regarding the death penalty, just that the Bali 9 knew the punishment that awaited them if caught and still went through with it. I have zero sympathy.

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