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Reply #30 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:44am

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

Having kids requires two parents so between the both of them surely a little time can be made to make sure the kids and the parents eat properly.

Healthy eating does not require a large amount of time or effort in preparation and/or cooking. Fast healthy food is quite different to assuming a gourmet eating lifestyle.

Saying you cannot prepare decent meals for a family because you are asked to work longer hours is no excuse.

I agree, everyone should know how to cook a basic meal, and a quick stir fry for example is both healthy and only takes mere minutes

but the basis of this thread is that women aren't cooking like they used to ... the types of meals Bluereferred to earlier (casseroles (beef, chicken, lamb), roast lambs and chicken, pork, pavlova's, sponge cakes, trifles and Christmas cake with money wrapped in foil ) require hours of prep and cooking time ... it's just not possible. Thats the sort of cooking I was referring to in my earlier comment

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Reply #31 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:47am

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:11am:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

I think we should make the effort to teach our children how to cook whether they are female or male. At least the basics.

People don't have the time to cook they once did, and it'll only get worse.

I don't think that's true. Foodism is becoming a larger part of our society every day in ways it never has before. Celebrity chefs, cooking shows like MKR and Masterchef etc.

Cooking for me is a means to an end. My husband, on the other hand, enjoys the process. It's a labour of love for him. He likes chopping and peeling and puts a lot of thought into every meal - even a sandwich is a gourmet experience when he's involved. I cook like I do most other things that I don't enjoy...in a whirlwind of impatience.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: White women can't cook... Reply #32 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:52am Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:47am: I don't think that's true. Foodism is becoming a larger part of our society every day in ways it never has before. Celebrity chefs, cooking shows like MKR and Masterchef etc. people like to watch it, sure .... but most don't have the time to try for themselves
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Reply #33 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:07am

Roasts were usually a Sunday thing and with the advent of slow cookers etc it's easy to toss all the ingredients into the pot in the morning before work and come home to find the house filled with the beautiful aroma of a finished dinner.

Having said that I know where you are coming from and what I find the most sad is that many 'family' recipes often aren't handed down. Women 'of old' rarely used recipes. They just tossed in a bit of this and a bit of that and everything came out wonderful.

I remember watching my grandmother making an apple roll type of dessert. She whipped up the pastry in a flash, rolled it out, topped it with apples and spices, then rolled it up and put some sort of sugar/caramel sauce on top. It was to die for and I have searched the internet for similar things but they all pale dreadfully in comparison. Not even close. This apple masterpiece of hers is unfortunately lost forever.

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Reply #34 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 10:20am

"I remember watching my grandmother making an apple roll type of dessert. She whipped up the pastry in a flash, rolled it out, topped it with apples and spices, then rolled it up and put some sort of sugar/caramel sauce on top. It was to die for and I have searched the internet for similar things but they all pale dreadfully in comparison. Not even close. This apple masterpiece of hers is unfortunately lost forever."

Sounds much like my Austrian MIL's apple streudel........

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Reply #35 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:57pm

It was like a roll and the dough was thick and spongy, almost like scone dough.

She would spread it with apples and, I think, she sprinkled it with cinnamon and sugar, rolled it up, cut it into largish slices which she laid cut side down in a tray and then poured a sugar type syrup over it.

I was young and not so interested in the basics. I just enjoyed the end product. Shame.

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Reply #36 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 1:01pm

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

It was like a roll and the dough was thick and spongy, almost like scone dough.

She would spread it with apples and, I think, she sprinkled it with cinnamon and sugar, rolled it up, cut it into largish slices which she laid cut side down in a tray and then poured a sugar type syrup over it.

I was young and not so interested in the basics. I just enjoyed the end product. Shame.

Was it a Russian recipe?

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Reply #37 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 1:16pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 1:01pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

It was like a roll and the dough was thick and spongy, almost like scone dough.

She would spread it with apples and, I think, she sprinkled it with cinnamon and sugar, rolled it up, cut it into largish slices which she laid cut side down in a tray and then poured a sugar type syrup over it.

I was young and not so interested in the basics. I just enjoyed the end product. Shame.

Was it a Russian recipe?

I doubt it, but who knows where she originally got it. She could have had a Russian friend who was a good cook, stranger things have happened.

English/Irish would be my guess though.

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Reply #38 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 8:03pm

yes time is a bit of an issue these days with both parents working...

even if you both just work your 8 till 5, when you both get home, who feels like peeling potatoes?

my mrs got more and more sick of it so she'd slip in easy days.. say, Wednesday, frozen meal day.. Friday nights, frozen chicken nuggets and chips..

they all seem to have the same smell about them and I ended up hating it... I'd rather baked beans and eggs on toast...

soups and stew type meals out of a can... snacks out of some sort of wrap..

all unhealthy, full of preservatives and sugars etc etc...

I believe that this is the reason western societies have increasing rates of heart disease, obesity, high blood pressures, cholesterols, blood sugars, allergies, CANCERS,, and the list goes on..

and that's why I decided to get a soup maker and pressure cooker...

I can make meals for a week and just heat it up.. mind you... the mrs even stuff this up sometimes.. Grin

its all made fresh from fresh produce without the nasties... and if you've seen my other threads in General you'll know I've lost 12 kgs

I like to BBQ on weekends.. and have been getting into charcoal cooking... as you've seen... I've got a new larger BBQ that I can now do roasts in.. I've done a roast chicken and beef tonight..

I think the trick with kids, is to get them into it early... you just need the patients.. and these days... get off your bloody phone and facebook etc.... !!!

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Reply #39 - Dec 8^th, 2014 at 5:36am

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

It was like a roll and the dough was thick and spongy, almost like scone dough.

She would spread it with apples and, I think, she sprinkled it with cinnamon and sugar, rolled it up, cut it into largish slices which she laid cut side down in a tray and then poured a sugar type syrup over it.

I was young and not so interested in the basics. I just enjoyed the end product. Shame.

Sounds like Cinnamon Scroll Scones/Pinwheels, Black Orchid, and your grandmother added sliced apples. The syrup could have been runny icing. It's an old recipe, very simple,quite versatile, and very yum.

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Re: White women can't cook...
Reply #40 - Dec 8^th, 2014 at 5:42am

True Blue... wrote on Dec 5^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

So what Happened???? Sad

Lifestyle changes, societal and gender expectations have shifted perhaps, or pure laziness? It's not just white women though. Unfortunately, in my opinion and from my own experiences, it's cross cultural in Western societies.
I think it's an important skill for children to learn. Single or partnered, everyone should know some basic recipes, at the very least.

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Black Orchid Moderator Offline Posts: 5826 Gender:	Re: White women can't cook... Reply #41 - Dec 8^th, 2014 at 10:10am In the 'olden' days the Commonsense Cookery Book was their basic bible. I wonder if it is still in publication?
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Reply #42 - Dec 8^th, 2014 at 10:11am

ashlee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 5:36am:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

It was like a roll and the dough was thick and spongy, almost like scone dough.

She would spread it with apples and, I think, she sprinkled it with cinnamon and sugar, rolled it up, cut it into largish slices which she laid cut side down in a tray and then poured a sugar type syrup over it.

I was young and not so interested in the basics. I just enjoyed the end product. Shame.

Sounds like Cinnamon Scroll Scones/Pinwheels, Black Orchid, and your grandmother added sliced apples. The syrup could have been runny icing. It's an old recipe, very simple,quite versatile, and very yum.

Yes they were like scrolls but the sauce was definitely a syrup rather than an icing and it was very yum

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