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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: White women can't cook... Reply #15 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:54pm Black Orchid wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:35pm: Let's assume that you don't want your breakfast and/or lunch made for you and just want dinner. That's 7 per week. (21 if you want breaky and lunch). Ummm how many times do you mow the lawn per week? is that all your husband does for you? Mow lawns?
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Black Orchid Moderator Offline Posts: 5826 Gender:	Re: White women can't cook... Reply #16 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:55pm I wasn't taught to cook by my mother, grandmother or anyone else. I taught myself and I always enjoyed it. I must admit though, I look forward to the day that I don't HAVE to cook anymore.
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Reply #17 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:56pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:35pm:

Let's assume that you don't want your breakfast and/or lunch made for you and just want dinner. That's 7 per week. (21 if you want breaky and lunch). Ummm how many times do you mow the lawn per week?

is that all your husband does for you? Mow lawns?

I mow my own lawns and quite enjoy it but I don't have to do it every day of the week.

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Reply #18 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:57pm

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:35pm:

Let's assume that you don't want your breakfast and/or lunch made for you and just want dinner. That's 7 per week. (21 if you want breaky and lunch). Ummm how many times do you mow the lawn per week?

is that all your husband does for you? Mow lawns?

I mow my own lawns and quite enjoy it but I don't have to do it every day of the week.

good for you, but you avoided answering the question

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Reply #19 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:02pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:

the problem is not that they can't, but they don't want to

not that long ago, a womans job was to maintain the house and cook for her family. It was her whole career. Even most off those that worked regarded work as socondary to their duties to the home. The better she did it, the better her status amongst her peers. Women used to take pride in it and were constantly trying to improve. Today women no longer need to do that. They gets their status and pride through their other careers. Cooking has become a chore rather than the career it once was.

Really?

If only one partner works it is the norm for the other partner to attend to the household 'duties' but if both parties work I think those home duties should be shared.

What about when the kids are gone and you are both retired how should the duties be shared then?

The wife doing all the cooking, washing, cleaning etc while the man mows the lawn once a fortnight and exercises the tv remote? How is that an equal partnership?

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Reply #20 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:14pm

True Blue... wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:40pm:

Ok ... all jokes aside ..you may have missed my point... the point is.. that women who can cook and cook well...have a real skill that has been overlooked for many many years even decades possibly centuries....

not only cooking but looking after the home and family.....

this has been An underpaid talent and perhaps a thankless task...i don't think most people realise what an absolutely amazing job women have done for centuries..

i guess i'm saying...that sometimes you don't know how good things are ... have been..until it's not there anymore

BTW those are really nice sentiments.

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: White women can't cook... Reply #21 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:43pm My wifes a great cook, f**s like a champion too. She knows which side her butter is on. Dont complain women when you want to play a mans role
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Reply #22 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:45pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:35pm:

Let's assume that you don't want your breakfast and/or lunch made for you and just want dinner. That's 7 per week. (21 if you want breaky and lunch). Ummm how many times do you mow the lawn per week?

is that all your husband does for you? Mow lawns?

Doesnt sound like theres much pool cleaning going on Cheesy

He probably cant break through the crust Shocked

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Reply #23 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:46pm

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 3:53pm:

the problem is not that they can't, but they don't want to

not that long ago, a womans job was to maintain the house and cook for her family. It was her whole career. Even most off those that worked regarded work as socondary to their duties to the home. The better she did it, the better her status amongst her peers. Women used to take pride in it and were constantly trying to improve. Today women no longer need to do that. They gets their status and pride through their other careers. Cooking has become a chore rather than the career it once was.

Really?

yes

If only one partner works it is the norm for the other partner to attend to the household 'duties' but if both parties work I think those home duties should be shared.

I agree, but I wasn't talking about how I feel about it now, I was talking about how I think people saw it back then

What about when the kids are gone and you are both retired how should the duties be shared then?
The wife doing all the cooking, washing, cleaning etc while the man mows the lawn once a fortnight and exercises the tv remote? How is that an equal partnership?

again, I'm not talking about the world now, but rather how I think it was viewed in decades gone by

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: White women can't cook... Reply #24 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 8:55pm My wife is English and she could not cook something appetising and appealing to save her life. I don't know if it's because she is English or a woman. I think it a bit of both. She was born decades after the war but still treats food as a way of defying and resisting the Bosch.
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Black Orchid Moderator Offline Posts: 5826 Gender:	Re: White women can't cook... Reply #25 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:06am I think we should make the effort to teach our children how to cook whether they are female or male. At least the basics.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: White women can't cook... Reply #26 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:11am Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:06am: I think we should make the effort to teach our children how to cook whether they are female or male. At least the basics. People don't have the time to cook they once did, and it'll only get worse.
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Reply #27 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:15am

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:11am:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

I think we should make the effort to teach our children how to cook whether they are female or male. At least the basics.

People don't have the time to cook they once did, and it'll only get worse.

Some things are worth making the time for or it will definitely get worse.

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Reply #28 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:19am

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:15am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:11am:

Black Orchid wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:06am:

I think we should make the effort to teach our children how to cook whether they are female or male. At least the basics.

People don't have the time to cook they once did, and it'll only get worse.

Some things are worth making the time for or it will definitely get worse.

how do you make the time? people are been asked to work longer and longer hours .... kids need to eat and I know my kids won't wait until 9pm .....

(I'm lucky in that i work from home, cooking isn't such an issue with me, even less of an issue with the retired chef next door who has all the time in the world to cook, he loves to do it, it helps him pass the time, and my family benefits greatly ... at least 3 nights a week .. what a top bloke Grin

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Reply #29 - Dec 7^th, 2014 at 9:30am

Having kids requires two parents so between the both of them surely a little time can be made to make sure the kids and the parents eat properly.

Healthy eating does not require a large amount of time or effort in preparation and/or cooking. Fast healthy food is quite different to assuming a gourmet eating lifestyle.

Saying you cannot prepare decent meals for a family because you are asked to work longer hours is no excuse.

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