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Nov 8th, 2014 at 6:28am
 
Victorian State Election: Greens lead in inner city seats, new poll says

The Greens are poised to seize two inner city seats from the ALP at this month's state election, a new poll suggests.

A Lonergan research poll, commissioned by the Greens, shows the party is on track to win its first lower house seats in Victoria, leading Labor in both Melbourne and Richmond.


www.theage.com.au/victoria/victoria-state-election-2014/victorian-state-election...


The Lonergan poll of more than 400 voters in each seat shows the Greens' Kathleen Maltzahn ahead of the incumbent Labor MP Richard Wynne in Richmond 54-46 per cent, based on 2010 preference flows. Ms Maltzahn's primary vote is 39 per cent, with Mr Wynne on 29 per cent.

In Melbourne, Greens' Ellen Sandell leads Labor's Jennifer Kanis 53-47, with the pair attracting 40 and 30 per cent of the primary respectively.

Melbourne has long been considered by strategists as the most vulnerable for the ALP from the Greens threat.

Both seats fall within Greens federal MP Adam Bandt's territory. The automated poll was taken in late October and also found that between half and two-thirds had made up their minds on how they would vote.

Voters in the two seats want the state election to deliver a Labor government, albeit with the Greens in the balance of power.

The poll did not define if the balance of power was in the lower or upper house.

On the controversial issue of East West Link around half of voters – 52 per cent in Melbourne and 47 per cent in Richmond – backed the Greens' policy to not build the tunnel under any circumstances.

Just 22 per cent of voters backed Labor's plan not to build the tollway only if a court finds the contracts invalid.

Three out of 10 voters in Richmond, and 27 per cent of Melbourne voters want the road to be built.
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Reply #1 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 6:32am
 
You ever strolled around central Melbourne and Richmond?

It's hardly your everyday people with a mortgage, 2 kids and 2 cars.

Its the latte sipping oddballs and peripheral people - exactly who the Greens attract and exactly why they will never amount to anymore than being a party to represent the fringe of society.
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Reply #2 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 6:37am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 6:32am:
You ever strolled around central Melbourne and Richmond?

It's hardly your everyday people with a mortgage, 2 kids and 2 cars.

Its the latte sipping oddballs and peripheral people - exactly who the Greens attract and exactly why they will never amount to anymore than being a party to represent the fringe of society.



That the way ... underestimate voters, underestimate the Greens. Nothing happening here.
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Reply #3 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 6:50am
 
Just pointing out if you ever spend anytime walking around either of these - and I've spent a lot of time in both - it's hardly packed with Aussies and/or people with a lifestyle reflecting the majority of traditional working families in the rest of the country.

Greens will always attract oddballs and peripheral/alternative people.
The sort I saw at the refugee demo I came across last year.

Hardly a concern. This lot will always exist. The vocal minority.
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Reply #4 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 7:05am
 
So you are claiming people are voting illegally since they are not Australian.

Is that correct?

Or are you claiming uptight racists are Australians and the rest are second class Australians.


Could you clarify.
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Reply #5 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 7:32am
 

People are getting fed up with the Lib/Labs and what other choice is there but the Greens. Most Australians don't, as yet, have the confidence to vote for Independents, they'd rather submit an invalid form, but that's ok, still sends a message to the pollies.
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Reply #6 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 7:38am
 
In every society, there is usually situations where you get a conglomerate of idiots. Greens have those as shown by their poll. But I wouldn't get too excited. The polling number should have been up around 1000 people to have it be more accurate.
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Reply #7 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 7:43am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 7:38am:
In every society, there is usually situations where you get a conglomerate of idiots. Greens have those as shown by their poll. But I wouldn't get too excited. The polling number should have been up around 1000 people to have it be more accurate.



Agree 1000 is better, although the 800 polled is still a good sign.
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Reply #8 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 8:04am
 
The latte sippers is exactly the Greens’ constituency and is why they always act conservatively and side with the Libs or pretend to act against the Libs where it matters.

That is why we have no Carbon Price and the Manus Is hellhole exists.
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Reply #9 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 8:11am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 8:04am:
The latte sippers is exactly the Greens’ constituency and is why they always act conservatively and side with the Libs or pretend to act against the Libs where it matters.

That is why we have no Carbon Price and the Manus Is hellhole exists.



Yet negotiations are under way between the Greens and the Coalition over Abbott's Petrol Tax.

If Greens can secure spending on public transport and hopefully fuel efficiency measures, Abbott's Transport Carbon Tax will be law.

As for concentration camps for people fleeing persecution any way they can, this time by boat, Greens oppose going against our word to protect children, to protect refugees.

This is a progressive approach to an issue the olds are trying to shift further and further hard right.
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Reply #10 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 8:13am
 
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The Lonergan poll of more than 400 voters in each seat shows the Greens' Kathleen Maltzahn ahead of the incumbent Labor MP Richard Wynne in Richmond 54-46 per cent, based on 2010 preference flows. Ms Maltzahn's primary vote is 39 per cent, with Mr Wynne on 29 per cent.

This is a weakness of the poll. By not determining the actual preferences from the respondents, the poll is not as reliable.

We also do not know how the preferences will flow in this election. Liberal party preferences will be crucial.

At this stage, I would assess these seats as being too close to call. I would be surprised though if the Greens don't win any seats. Melbourne, Richmond and Brunswick are all possibilities for the Greens to win. (The poll by Lonergan Research did not include the seat of Brunswick.)
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Reply #11 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 8:20am
 
F&*# the Greens
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progressiveslol wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 7:38am:
In every society, there is usually situations where you get a conglomerate of idiots. Greens have those as shown by their poll. But I wouldn't get too excited. The polling number should have been up around 1000 people to have it be more accurate.



Agree 1000 is better, although the 800 polled is still a good sign.

No, only 400 in each. That does not equate to 800 poll. That equals 800 polled in 2 polls. Not the same.

Im beginning to think that this is a poll for the greens followers only. Keep them excited and you will not lose them, but don't give the true reflection of the electorate as it may be bad news.

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Reply #13 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 8:41am
 
Greens or no Greens...the LNP is dead in Victoria  Grin Grin
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Reply #14 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 9:27am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 6:32am:
You ever strolled around central Melbourne and Richmond?

It's hardly your
"everyday people with a mortgage, 2 kids and 2 cars"


Its the latte sipping oddballs and peripheral people






Good GOUGH !



Vibrant minds live in these zones to ESCAPE the smell of
baby vomit, Ikea catalogues and mind numbing mundanity


Who could maintain a sense of sanity in a street lined with
"Andreis"
?


... and how DOES a suburban capitalist take their coffee ?





Adam Bandt
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Greens'
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Napthine's
multi-BILLION-dollar, white elephant road project - that no one wanted, or needed, scheduled to be ripped through the back yards of these heritage overlay precincts
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