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Re: Protest laws set to pass Tas parliament.
Reply #15 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 12:10pm

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 12:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

I agree protestors should not be able to stop people going about their work.....However this is why we have police to move people along who are causing a nuisance or preventing others from going about their lawful business.....These laws are very broad and have the prospect of being abused to prevent free speech and accountability of the executive Government....Once you allow these laws it is hard to take them back....Any attack of freedom is an attack on our democracy and should be opposed IMO!!!

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The move-along laws really aren't that broad, or useful in protest situations....they're designed more for moving drunks away from the door of a pub/club.

Arresting or fining (about $500) a protester from a large, well funded group isn't really going to stop the other idiots from stuffing up the poor workers trying to earn a living.

Civil right marches in the US during the 60's where denied permits to peacefully protest by local authorities who then declared the marched illegitimate and sent out police to smash the protestors.....What is stopping any Government from doing the same thing to prevent the public's right to protest anything that they consider against the public interest....Big business will ride rough shot over the individual freedom of citizens to peacefully protest....The law is an abuse of democracy and should be rejected by all Australian's who respect freedom!!!

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No mention of the rights of workers to go about their jobs safely and without being harassed, so they can put food on their family's tables...

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Re: Protest laws set to pass Tas parliament.
Reply #16 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 12:20pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 12:07pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

How can we have a revolution when we're not allowed to protest?

Now that's something worth protesting about.

Will the public have ANY rights left by the time these neo conservative fascists are exterminated?

It's just not democracy!

Bring it on!!!!

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Where does it say you can't protest? Of course you can. You just can't chain yourselves to machinery or block roads, etc. Workers have the right to do their jobs safely, just as you have the right to protest. This is a fair balance, short of banning protests altogether.

You require a permit to organise a protest....Once that permit is rejected the public will suffer severe penalties for any breaches.....The Franklin Dam project, Gunn's paper Mill and other controversial projects are classic examples where these laws would have prevented opposition and given big business the right to prevent the public protesting.....If people chain themselves to machinery they can already be arrested, what this law does is prevent peaceful protest where the only laws broken is the publics right to excise their democratic rights!!!

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Re: Protest laws set to pass Tas parliament.
Reply #17 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:36pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

I agree protestors should not be able to stop people going about their work.....However this is why we have police to move people along who are causing a nuisance or preventing others from going about their lawful business.....These laws are very broad and have the prospect of being abused to prevent free speech and accountability of the executive Government....Once you allow these laws it is hard to take them back....Any attack of freedom is an attack on our democracy and should be opposed IMO!!!

Smiley

The move-along laws really aren't that broad, or useful in protest situations....they're designed more for moving drunks away from the door of a pub/club.

Arresting or fining (about $500) a protester from a large, well funded group isn't really going to stop the other idiots from stuffing up the poor workers trying to earn a living.

I'm always for peaceful protests. I've participated in a lot over the years and not once can I remember any violence. Violent protests defeat the purpose and give genuine activists a bad name.

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