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Reply #91 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:40pm

Raven wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

That's right, they are living it up! Soaking in the sun at the beach by day and sinking a few cold ones at the pub by night all on $13,000 a year.

Bloody bludgers

Sure, so say the usual suspects. Don't forget the drugs, apparently they get into that stuff in a big way too.....and the pokies. Never has $13,000 gone so far.

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Reply #92 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 5:27pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:40pm:

Raven wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

That's right, they are living it up! Soaking in the sun at the beach by day and sinking a few cold ones at the pub by night all on $13,000 a year.

Bloody bludgers

Sure, so say the usual suspects. Don't forget the drugs, apparently they get into that stuff in a big way too.....and the pokies. Never has $13,000 gone so far.

One thing I couldn't help but notice when I became unemployed during the 'recession we had to have' was the
sheer number of people who had thought like this, and had all the 'dole bludger' claims down pat. UNTIL they
became unemployed themselves, and began to realise that 'the bludgers' actually weren't, and were in reality
NO different to them.

Many commented that they HAD been wrong about the unemployed, and that they'd never have been aware
until they found themselves in the same shoes.

Maybe a year on the dole should be mandatory, it'd teach some people a bit of humility and compassion.

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Reply #93 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 5:34pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 1:12am:

If you're under 30 and homeless without money then you can thank your parents. There seems to be this odd thinking amongst "progressives" that once you're 18 then the state is your new mummy and daddy and your biological (or step) parents are relinquished of their parental responsibilities.

That’s right, Mistie. You lived with your parents until you made Professor, no?

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Reply #94 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 8:05pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 5:34pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 1:12am:

If you're under 30 and homeless without money then you can thank your parents. There seems to be this odd thinking amongst "progressives" that once you're 18 then the state is your new mummy and daddy and your biological (or step) parents are relinquished of their parental responsibilities.

That’s right, Mistie. You lived with your parents until you made Professor, no?

Nope. I moved out when I was 19 and never went back. Didn't need to. They would have welcomed me back with open arms of course if I had extreme financial difficulty. Sounds radical hey.

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Reply #95 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 9:43pm

Somebody is an ordinary Joe Blow, with three adult kids under 30.

Can he afford to keep all three if they were made unemployed and lost the dole 6 months every year (and the unemployment will last years, with the recession bearing down on us) on an average salary?

This is evil, evil and stupid policy and I cannot believe anyone would try and justify this crap!

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Reply #96 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 10:07pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 9:43pm:

Somebody is an ordinary Joe Blow, with three adult kids under 30.

Can he afford to keep all three if they were made unemployed and lost the dole 6 months every year (and the unemployment will last years, with the recession bearing down on us) on an average salary?

This is evil, evil and stupid policy and I cannot believe anyone would try and justify this crap!

Your pro-economy argument didn't last long. Back to 'they just should have the dole'.

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Reply #98 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:19pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 10:07pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 9:43pm:

Somebody is an ordinary Joe Blow, with three adult kids under 30.

Can he afford to keep all three if they were made unemployed and lost the dole 6 months every year (and the unemployment will last years, with the recession bearing down on us) on an average salary?

This is evil, evil and stupid policy and I cannot believe anyone would try and justify this crap!

Your pro-economy argument didn't last long. Back to 'they just should have the dole'.

Social security is part of the economy - and it is a strong underpinning of it since it returns to government 100% of the cash outlaid within a very short space of time through the cycle of taxation, and generates a predictable amount of economic activity.

That's why adverse comments on Kevin's handout to the poor are without foundation - those handout stimulated the economy at a time of slump and kept doors of businesses open for Christmas.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10277 Gender:	Re: Will you be like this when under 30 cant get dole. Reply #99 - Nov 8^th, 2014 at 9:34pm 100% of it wouldn't be returned to the government. The dole goes on things like rent and food. Real estates and Woolworths managers probably buy new cars or ivory back-scratchers with it.
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