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Reply #15 - Nov 1^st, 2014 at 4:54pm

lee wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 4:29pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 3:10pm:

•slightly intoxicating, breathing and pulse rate increase, nausea: 30,000 ppm
•above plus headaches and sight impairment: 50,000 ppm
•unconscious, further exposure death: 100,000 ppm

So much greater than 400ppm.

The upper safety limit for atmospheric CO2 is 350 parts per million (ppm). Atmospheric CO2 levels have stayed higher than 350 ppm since early 1988.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21603 Gender:	Re: Coal Shatters Greg Hunt! Reply #16 - Nov 1^st, 2014 at 5:23pm DaS Energy wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 4:54pm: The upper safety limit for atmospheric CO2 is 350 parts per million (ppm). Can you please provide a scientific study that has examined and tested this conjecture.
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DaS Energy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3962 Gender:	Re: Coal Shatters Greg Hunt! Reply #17 - Nov 1^st, 2014 at 6:16pm lee wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 5:23pm: DaS Energy wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 4:54pm: The upper safety limit for atmospheric CO2 is 350 parts per million (ppm). Can you please provide a scientific study that has examined and tested this conjecture. See Web under CO2 atmosphere and take your pick!
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Reply #18 - Nov 1^st, 2014 at 6:41pm

'Carbon dioxide is not generally found at hazardous levels in indoor environments. The MNDOLI has set workplace safety standards of 10,000 ppm for an 8-hour period and 30,000 ppm for a 15 minute period. This means the average concentration over an 8-hour period should not exceed 10,000 ppm and the average concentration over a 15 minute period should not exceed 30,000 ppm. It is unusual to find such continuously high levels indoors and extremely rare in non-industrial workplaces. These standards were developed for healthy working adults and may not be appropriate for sensitive populations, such as children and the elderly. MDH is not aware of lower standards developed for the general public that would be protective of sensitive individuals. '

http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/indoorair/co2/

'In terms of worker safety, Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set a permissible exposure limit (PEL) for CO2 of 5,000 parts per million (ppm) over an 8-hour work day, which is equivalent to 0.5% by volume of air.'

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wy/information/NEPA/cfodocs/howell.Pa...

'Some experts opine that complaints that seem to be associated with high CO2 problem in many if not most circumstances are likely to be actually due to the corresponding reduction in available oxygen in air rather than high toxicity levels of CO2 in the air. As carbon dioxide levels climb above a few percent the relative proportions of gases making up that air change: the concentration of oxygen in the air inhaled is reduced as the amount of CO2 is increased.'

http://www.inspectapedia.com/hazmat/CO2gashaz.htm

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Reply #19 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 2:14am

lee wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 6:41pm:

'Carbon dioxide is not generally found at hazardous levels in indoor environments. The MNDOLI has set workplace safety standards of 10,000 ppm for an 8-hour period and 30,000 ppm for a 15 minute period. This means the average concentration over an 8-hour period should not exceed 10,000 ppm and the average concentration over a 15 minute period should not exceed 30,000 ppm. It is unusual to find such continuously high levels indoors and extremely rare in non-industrial workplaces. These standards were developed for healthy working adults and may not be appropriate for sensitive populations, such as children and the elderly. MDH is not aware of lower standards developed for the general public that would be protective of sensitive individuals. '

http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/indoorair/co2/

'In terms of worker safety, Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set a permissible exposure limit (PEL) for CO2 of 5,000 parts per million (ppm) over an 8-hour work day, which is equivalent to 0.5% by volume of air.'

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wy/information/NEPA/cfodocs/howell.Pa...

'Some experts opine that complaints that seem to be associated with high CO2 problem in many if not most circumstances are likely to be actually due to the corresponding reduction in available oxygen in air rather than high toxicity levels of CO2 in the air. As carbon dioxide levels climb above a few percent the relative proportions of gases making up that air change: the concentration of oxygen in the air inhaled is reduced as the amount of CO2 is increased.'

http://www.inspectapedia.com/hazmat/CO2gashaz.htm

You aint very good on defining boundaries of a system are ya buddy Cheesy

Do you bore your mates with year 11 economics books after snow-cones do ya??

Yeh, i wish i was a blue blood so my mrs could laugh at me Cheesy

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21603 Gender:	Re: Coal Shatters Greg Hunt! Reply #20 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 12:00pm Do you think CO2 in a somewhat closed room, (contained atmosphere), is different from CO2 in the outside atmosphere, at the same concentration?
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Coal Shatters Greg Hunt! Reply #21 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 12:43pm lee wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 12:00pm: Do you think CO2 in a somewhat closed room, (contained atmosphere), is different from CO2 in the outside atmosphere, at the same concentration? A closed room does not contain the ingredients for life. End of w*** fest oooooooooooops
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DaS Energy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3962 Gender:	Re: Coal Shatters Greg Hunt! Reply #22 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 2:28pm The LNP Greg Hunt directive coal shall have no part in clean green energy is meeting resistance from the small miners who are ideally placed in the new energy market, but they are losing out because of Greg Hunt/LNP save the big Coal miners so they don't advertise, come election time.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21603 Gender:	Re: Coal Shatters Greg Hunt! Reply #23 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 11:27am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 12:43pm: A closed room does not contain the ingredients for life Not even oxygen?
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Reply #24 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 12:22pm

DaS Energy wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 2:28pm:

The LNP Greg Hunt directive coal shall have no part in clean green energy is meeting resistance from the small miners who are ideally placed in the new energy market, but they are losing out because of Greg Hunt/LNP save the big Coal miners so they don't advertise, come election time.

Can you provide a link to a full description of how your generator works and who has developed it etc. (the image in the above post)

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Re: Coal Shatters Greg Hunt!
Reply #25 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 12:55pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 12:22pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 2:28pm:

The LNP Greg Hunt directive coal shall have no part in clean green energy is meeting resistance from the small miners who are ideally placed in the new energy market, but they are losing out because of Greg Hunt/LNP save the big Coal miners so they don't advertise, come election time.

Can you provide a link to a full description of how your generator works and who has developed it etc. (the image in the above post)

See Refrigeration cycle. Note the restrictor that takes away the Refrigerant energy sending it cold.

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Refrigerant pressure bar, at temperature Celsius attached.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Coal Shatters Greg Hunt! Reply #26 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 1:17pm lee wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 11:27am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 12:43pm: A closed room does not contain the ingredients for life Not even oxygen? wow, you sir are one tricky operator
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