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Re: Is the Hag Experience Really Sleep Paralysis?
Reply #15 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 9:51pm:

Yes it really is sleep paralysis. Pseudoscientific piffle to believe otherwise.

And before you ask, yes I have had it frequently. First time it scared the poo out of me, now it doesnt since I know what to do.

Well, it is a 'sleep paralysis', but what is its cause? That's the question.

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Reply #16 - Oct 12^th, 2014 at 8:33pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 9:51pm:

Yes it really is sleep paralysis. Pseudoscientific piffle to believe otherwise.

And before you ask, yes I have had it frequently. First time it scared the poo out of me, now it doesnt since I know what to do.

Well, it is a 'sleep paralysis', but what is its cause? That's the question.

"Normal" people will say that it's simply a psychological/medical condition, and that the hags, aliens etc are just the brain creating an illusion or hallucination.

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Re: Is the Hag Experience Really Sleep Paralysis?
Reply #17 - Oct 13^th, 2014 at 10:24am

Freedumb wrote on Oct 12^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 9:51pm:

Yes it really is sleep paralysis. Pseudoscientific piffle to believe otherwise.

And before you ask, yes I have had it frequently. First time it scared the poo out of me, now it doesnt since I know what to do.

Well, it is a 'sleep paralysis', but what is its cause? That's the question.

"Normal" people will say that it's simply a psychological/medical condition, and that the hags, aliens etc are just the brain creating an illusion or hallucination.

Millions of people through thousands of years have experienced the Hag phenomenon

But why have those millions of people experienced the same thing?

Those who claim the Hag is simply 'sleep paralysis' refuse to take into account all those who insist they were not paralysed during the experience, nor did they suffer 'pressure on the chest' to conform with the 'sleep paralysis' explanation

People dream, they hallucinate, but their dreams/hallucinations are individual to the person

Yet the Hag is described similarly by all those who have experienced it

Do we have the same green dog experience, world-wide? Have people claimed to have experienced a green dog while they slept for tens of thousands of years?

No

Strange, then, that the Hag is and always has been, universal

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Re: Is the Hag Experience Really Sleep Paralysis?
Reply #18 - Oct 13^th, 2014 at 7:38pm

PZ547 wrote on Oct 13^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 12^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 9:51pm:

Yes it really is sleep paralysis. Pseudoscientific piffle to believe otherwise.

And before you ask, yes I have had it frequently. First time it scared the poo out of me, now it doesnt since I know what to do.

Well, it is a 'sleep paralysis', but what is its cause? That's the question.

"Normal" people will say that it's simply a psychological/medical condition, and that the hags, aliens etc are just the brain creating an illusion or hallucination.

Millions of people through thousands of years have experienced the Hag phenomenon

But why have those millions of people experienced the same thing?

Those who claim the Hag is simply 'sleep paralysis' refuse to take into account all those who insist they were not paralysed during the experience, nor did they suffer 'pressure on the chest' to conform with the 'sleep paralysis' explanation

People dream, they hallucinate, but their dreams/hallucinations are individual to the person

Yet the Hag is described similarly by all those who have experienced it

Do we have the same green dog experience, world-wide? Have people claimed to have experienced a green dog while they slept for tens of thousands of years?

No

Strange, then, that the Hag is and always has been, universal

Exactly. When something is universally seen, over thousands of years, there is bound to be some truth to it.

I was just explaining to culture warrior how the close-minded tend to brand anything that dictates normalcy as a psychological/mental condition... basically there is always a rational explanation and if you believe otherwise you are insane, regardless of what anybody says.

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And what it wouldn't be, it would.
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Re: Is the Hag Experience Really Sleep Paralysis?
Reply #19 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:32am

I don't follow the rationale of the sleep paralysis argument: There is sleep paralysis and this causes you to hallucinate that a dark figure is smothering or haunting you. Hmm... too many links in the cause and effect chain missing.

I don't know if the thing is real or not. I like mysteries like this anyway.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 116715 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Is the Hag Experience Really Sleep Paralysis? Reply #20 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 5:43am Dear PZ547 - I think you need to see a doctor. namaste
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Freedumb Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1101 WA Gender:	Re: Is the Hag Experience Really Sleep Paralysis? Reply #21 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 11:26am Bobby. wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 5:43am: Dear PZ547 - I think you need to see a doctor. namaste Don't be rude. This is forgiven. Namaste.
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