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Dream Geography - Is There a Place You Go To ?
Oct 9th, 2014 at 1:33am
 
Wasn't sure how to word the title to this thread.  If anyone feels they have a better title, maybe they could arrange for it to be altered

Basically, I'm wondering if you go to a specific place when you dream, or have you visited the same dream location more than once?

I know it happens because I've read in other online fora that quite a few people claim to have a 'certain place' they visit sometimes while they're asleep/dreaming.  It was great to know it happens to others too.  And when I've posted that I feel homesickness for the place I go to, several people knew what I meant and said they feel it too

There's nothing remarkable about my dream-place.  It looks 'normal', same as here on Earth.  The people look 'normal' too.  And the things I do there aren't that unusual either

When I go there, I don't have any realisation within the dream that I'm dreaming or 'back in this place'.  It's just like real-life.  In the dream-place, I know some of the lay-out, the streets, etc.  The only unusual aspect registers after I wake up from one of those dreams, knowing, remembering, that I've 'been there again'.  And then the homesickness kicks in and if it were possible to put money in a slot in order to return (or go back into the dream) I'd do it in a flash

Not that it's all lovely and Heavenly there. Not at all.  No fluffy clouds or fields of flowers.  It has dirt tracks, forests, playgrounds seen in darkness at night, crowded railway station, buildings under construction, etc.

It's the atmosphere there, for want of a better word.  The 'feeling'.  But as I say, when I'm there, it feels ordinary.  It's only afterwards that I appreciate the 'feeling' of being there and I miss it when I awaken from the dream and for days afterwards.  Puzzling, really

The people there aren't particularly friendly.  Sometimes they're a bit cruel, in fact.  They know more than I do, so they seem to find me amusing in a mocking sort of way.  The best way to describe it is to liken it to a bunch of teenagers with a much younger kid tagging along.  In the dreams, I feel like that younger kid.  I can't do things as well as they and make mistakes.  They go on ahead and I try to catch up to them.  They don't really help me, either.  I usually have a bit of a lonely or 'outsider' feeling in the dreams.  Put that way, it's a wonder I get homesick for the place afterwards, but I do, and others have said the same

When the topic's been raised in other online fora, it's not uncommon for people to say they feel as if they're being taught in the dream-place they go to.  When they wake up, they can't remember what they learned there, though.  I know what they mean

Anyone else have a place they return to in dreams?



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Re: Dream Geography - Is There a Place You Go To ?
Reply #1 - Oct 9th, 2014 at 9:23pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Oct 9th, 2014 at 1:33am:
Wasn't sure how to word the title to this thread.  If anyone feels they have a better title, maybe they could arrange for it to be altered

Basically, I'm wondering if you go to a specific place when you dream, or have you visited the same dream location more than once?

I know it happens because I've read in other online fora that quite a few people claim to have a 'certain place' they visit sometimes while they're asleep/dreaming.  It was great to know it happens to others too.  And when I've posted that I feel homesickness for the place I go to, several people knew what I meant and said they feel it too

There's nothing remarkable about my dream-place.  It looks 'normal', same as here on Earth.  The people look 'normal' too.  And the things I do there aren't that unusual either

When I go there, I don't have any realisation within the dream that I'm dreaming or 'back in this place'.  It's just like real-life.  In the dream-place, I know some of the lay-out, the streets, etc.  The only unusual aspect registers after I wake up from one of those dreams, knowing, remembering, that I've 'been there again'.  And then the homesickness kicks in and if it were possible to put money in a slot in order to return (or go back into the dream) I'd do it in a flash

Not that it's all lovely and Heavenly there. Not at all.  No fluffy clouds or fields of flowers.  It has dirt tracks, forests, playgrounds seen in darkness at night, crowded railway station, buildings under construction, etc.

It's the atmosphere there, for want of a better word.  The 'feeling'.  But as I say, when I'm there, it feels ordinary.  It's only afterwards that I appreciate the 'feeling' of being there and I miss it when I awaken from the dream and for days afterwards.  Puzzling, really

The people there aren't particularly friendly.  Sometimes they're a bit cruel, in fact.  They know more than I do, so they seem to find me amusing in a mocking sort of way.  The best way to describe it is to liken it to a bunch of teenagers with a much younger kid tagging along.  In the dreams, I feel like that younger kid.  I can't do things as well as they and make mistakes.  They go on ahead and I try to catch up to them.  They don't really help me, either.  I usually have a bit of a lonely or 'outsider' feeling in the dreams.  Put that way, it's a wonder I get homesick for the place afterwards, but I do, and others have said the same

When the topic's been raised in other online fora, it's not uncommon for people to say they feel as if they're being taught in the dream-place they go to.  When they wake up, they can't remember what they learned there, though.  I know what they mean

Anyone else have a place they return to in dreams?





I once knew somebody who always had these dreams of going to some isolated farmhouse, that was very similar to a place she used to live earlier in her life, but slightly different.

I go to a different place every time I dream... the things that go on in them, well it's just warped. Recently I dreamt that I went to a small coastal town that I lived some of my childhood in... this place was set in the future, judging by the modern looking buildings, etc. I wondered if, for some reason, I was seeing the future of this place?
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Re: Dream Geography - Is There a Place You Go To ?
Reply #2 - Oct 9th, 2014 at 10:20pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Oct 9th, 2014 at 1:33am:
if you go to a specific place when you dream, or have you visited the same dream location more than once?




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Reply #3 - Oct 9th, 2014 at 10:40pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 9th, 2014 at 10:20pm:
PZ547 wrote on Oct 9th, 2014 at 1:33am:
if you go to a specific place when you dream, or have you visited the same dream location more than once?




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Re: Dream Geography - Is There a Place You Go To ?
Reply #4 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 8:40am
 
Freedumb wrote on Oct 9th, 2014 at 10:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 9th, 2014 at 10:20pm:
PZ547 wrote on Oct 9th, 2014 at 1:33am:
if you go to a specific place when you dream, or have you visited the same dream location more than once?




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Reply #5 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 1:43pm
 
I wouldn't be at work for over a month.
The Depression was about to hit rock bottom, regardless that I had been on Anti-Depressants for awhile.
They called me the 'Terminator' at work, because I was emotionally dead (never talked to anyone and just worked)and even wore my dark work-sunnies on the nightshift - to hide the pain.
The desire to die was the only feeling and thought and eventually it asked of me to die in my sleep.
Some people take illicit drugs n' alcohol and have violent car accidents, wrist slashing, etc to die. I was just letting the depression take its own course.
I lay there and didn't move for 3 days or nights.
I was dead to the world.
Everything was dark in that dark lonely house.

By coincidence - it was exactly during those 3 days & 3 nights that it flooded in the Riverina (2011) for the first time in 42 years (I was 42 at the time). I barely remember seeing through the slit of my barely opened eye to see through the slit between curtains an incredibly heavy and constant downpour. I did this occasionally over that period.
But I didn't care.
I didn't care if  the house was flooding.
All that was happening was - the Rain.
Everywhere was flooding though and flooding high.
Besides those fleeting moments of perceiving the Rain.
All that I can remember was my dreams.
I was always underwater - scuba diving or breathing underwater via free-diving, etc. I was 'alive' underwater via my dreams that were far more interesting than what my life had become.
When I finally managed to move and rouse myself to go to the toilet and drink from the tap, the rain had stopped.
I hadn't died in my sleep, as how it felt I would. The house I was in wasn't flooded due to a good spot, but it was close.
After a few weeks, I managed to return to work.
I guess that was that then. So to refer to a famous movie scene...
Just a moment that was lost like tears in rain.


So that's it. Don't know if it really adds to the topic?
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Reply #6 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 4:52pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 10th, 2014 at 1:43pm:
I wouldn't be at work for over a month.
The Depression was about to hit rock bottom, regardless that I had been on Anti-Depressants for awhile.
They called me the 'Terminator' at work, because I was emotionally dead (never talked to anyone and just worked)and even wore my dark work-sunnies on the nightshift - to hide the pain.
The desire to die was the only feeling and thought and eventually it asked of me to die in my sleep.
Some people take illicit drugs n' alcohol and have violent car accidents, wrist slashing, etc to die. I was just letting the depression take its own course.
I lay there and didn't move for 3 days or nights.
I was dead to the world.
Everything was dark in that dark lonely house.

By coincidence - it was exactly during those 3 days & 3 nights that it flooded in the Riverina (2011) for the first time in 42 years (I was 42 at the time). I barely remember seeing through the slit of my barely opened eye to see through the slit between curtains an incredibly heavy and constant downpour. I did this occasionally over that period.
But I didn't care.
I didn't care if  the house was flooding.
All that was happening was - the Rain.
Everywhere was flooding though and flooding high.
Besides those fleeting moments of perceiving the Rain.
All that I can remember was my dreams.
I was always underwater - scuba diving or breathing underwater via free-diving, etc. I was 'alive' underwater via my dreams that were far more interesting than what my life had become.
When I finally managed to move and rouse myself to go to the toilet and drink from the tap, the rain had stopped.
I hadn't died in my sleep, as how it felt I would. The house I was in wasn't flooded due to a good spot, but it was close.
After a few weeks, I managed to return to work.
I guess that was that then. So to refer to a famous movie scene...
Just a moment that was lost like tears in rain.


So that's it. Don't know if it really adds to the topic?


Yes, it does. Because during that 3 days of depression you dreamt a lot.  Tongue

Perhaps the whole ordeal was symbolic of "drowning in depression". I've experienced stages of depression where I found it hard to get out of bed... the bed was the only place I wanted to be. I would lay in there all morning, afternoon, get up just to do what I needed to do (toilet, eat, drink, etc) then go back.

It's a horrible feeling, and in some cases, anti-depressants don't actually help, rather they just numb you, make you careless -- which is what you can feel just by being depressed anyway.

But yes, the flood in the riverina may have contributed to your dreams, or it could simply be a "synchronicity" for "drowning in depression", as well as the symbology of your dreams -- scuba-diving, exploring the abyss  Wink

I'm glad you've overcome it.
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Reply #7 - Oct 11th, 2014 at 8:14pm
 

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Reply #8 - Oct 11th, 2014 at 11:54pm
 
Re Jasin's post, Reply #5

I've heard it said (it might have been in this forum) that the mind compensates

for example

in floatation tanks, sensory deprivation

in solitary confinement

etc.

Guess being in a darkened place surrounded by ceaseless rain, although not identical, could produce a similar effect.  And dreams of water, water everywhere, would influence the dreams, seeing we often incorporate external factors within our dreams

Understandable, too, that utter depression with life would cause someone to seek a more cheer in dreams.  Many depressed people seek escape in sleep and possibly, it has considerable therapeutic value, e.g. 'sleep therapy'

There are thousands of people right now discussing their dream lives online.  The 'teaching type' dreams arise every now and then, as do the 'going to the same place' type dreams.  Not everyone's familiar with them, but those who are strike a chord with each other.  I was happy to find people who'd experienced the same sort of thing.  Internet's a boon in that respect - being able to discuss things you'd hesitate to mention to people in real-life

The vast majority of my own dreams are typical dreams and forgotten by the time I've emerged from the shower. Others though are indelible and remain as 'memories' for decades, just like real events.  The 'same place' type dreams fall in that category, along with the precognitive dreams.  They have an 'atmosphere' of their own

When I was younger, I went through stages of deep depression and suicidal thoughts.  There's no mystery as to why.  The most concentrated phase lasted around nine, ten years and was pretty unrelenting. On the surface though, most of the time, I concealed it.  To deal with my demons, I used to walk.  Walked for miles then walked back again, regardless of the time.  Walked to exhaust myself, to escape myself and problems, to try to sort things out -- just walked and walked.  If I'd had a car and known how to drive, I may possibly have driven around.  For me, dawn was the worst time for depression, for some reason.  But as I shared accommodation through a lot of those years, escaping in sleep wasn't really an option - not considerate, and I didn't want others talking about me, didn't want to seem 'odd' or be a problem for others.  Working and walking and fighting it is how I dealt with it - sleep came through exhaustion and life has always thrown more at me than I've thought I could cope with - but never boring.  It's probably true of most people

The theory is that we remember our dreams if we awaken during them.  Some even set alarm clocks to awaken themselves periodically during their sleeping hours in order they can jot down their dreams.  Then back to sleep until the next alarm awakens them.  It's said most people experience precognitive dreams and if they took the trouble to maintain a dream diary, they'd discover they were regularly dreaming of their future

Not sure what the 'going to the same place' dreams are about.  In fact, I don't know if 'real life' is the dream and our dream lives are the reality - or if 'reality' is something entirely different



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