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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: personal abuse of me Reply #30 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:21am Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:05am: On the spiritual forum I delete posts with ease.Those that post there constructively and genuinely there do so in safety. you mean those posts that agree with your point of view?
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Reply #31 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:26pm

cods wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 6:27am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2014 at 5:53pm:

Sometimes this forum is like a virtual manifestation of parliament house.

but they are paid to be one eyed.. Roll Eyes

and most on here critisise parliament all the time whilst doing exactly the same thing..

is it unreasonable to call others unreasonable for being unreasonable??????????????

This is true, but people are unreasonable by nature. Not all, but most. It's because people are offended and angry when a viewpoint is expressed that clashes with their own.

Especially in the case when one "has to be right" (an ego-trip) they deal with it in two ways... by resorting to immature personal abuse, or "mature" personal abuse, which I've written about in a separate thread from this, which is when one attack's another's comments with "You're ignorant. You're stupid. I'm smart, I know everything. I am superior to you." Often using intelligent vocabulary.

It matters not whether you are "left-wing", "right-wing", Christian, Muslim, atheist or "tinfoil hat". What unites us is that we all do it Cheesy

it is very hard not to fall for the tit-for-tat trap, I try to avoid it but sometimes I just have to make a point. Am I a hypocrite? In a sense, yes. But at least I can admit it Grin

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Reply #32 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:29pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

On the spiritual forum I delete posts with ease.Those that post there constructively and genuinely there do so in safety.

you mean those posts that agree with your point of view?

That isn't 100% true. For an example, Sprinty knows that I don't agree a lot of the aspects of organised religion. Sprinty's faith is of that -- organised religion. He will delete posts if they contain mockery which is no different to personal abuse, really. I don't think he really cares what you believe, it's more about how you conduct yourself. You can express an opinion without pulling the p!ss, which is what I have done in the Spirituality forum, none of my posts have been deleted, if anything, he applauds them -- but do they contradict with his beliefs? Yes.

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And what it wouldn't be, it would.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52826 At my desk.	Re: personal abuse of me Reply #33 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:36pm I think sprint is also anti-institution.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: personal abuse of me Reply #34 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:40pm I think anti-institution is also sprint!!
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Freedumb Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1101 WA Gender:	Re: personal abuse of me Reply #35 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:42pm I thought otherwise, as the Lutheran church (I've read in other threads that he's Lutheran) is somewhat of an organised religion. Regardless of whether he is anti-institution or not, I have posted beliefs that clash with his own.
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Reply #36 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 2:21pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

On the spiritual forum I delete posts with ease.Those that post there constructively and genuinely there do so in safety.

you mean those posts that agree with your point of view?

That isn't 100% true. For an example, Sprinty knows that I don't agree a lot of the aspects of organised religion. Sprinty's faith is of that -- organised religion. He will delete posts if they contain mockery which is no different to personal abuse, really. I don't think he really cares what you believe, it's more about how you conduct yourself. You can express an opinion without pulling the p!ss, which is what I have done in the Spirituality forum, none of my posts have been deleted, if anything, he applauds them -- but do they contradict with his beliefs? Yes.

I would generally agree with that too.

I have quite clearly stated my position of no support at all for Organised religion and have not had posts removed or been "banned".

That said, I do recognise that some post removals appear to be either ideologically based or a bit personal, however, I am not privy to the history that may underpin the seemingly personal edits. Not that they would be any more justified in my humble opinion.

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Reply #37 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 4:45pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

cods wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 6:27am:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2014 at 5:53pm:

Sometimes this forum is like a virtual manifestation of parliament house.

but they are paid to be one eyed.. Roll Eyes

and most on here critisise parliament all the time whilst doing exactly the same thing..

is it unreasonable to call others unreasonable for being unreasonable??????????????

This is true, but people are unreasonable by nature. Not all, but most. It's because people are offended and angry when a viewpoint is expressed that clashes with their own.

Especially in the case when one "has to be right" (an ego-trip) they deal with it in two ways... by resorting to immature personal abuse, or "mature" personal abuse, which I've written about in a separate thread from this, which is when one attack's another's comments with "You're ignorant. You're stupid. I'm smart, I know everything. I am superior to you." Often using intelligent vocabulary.

It matters not whether you are "left-wing", "right-wing", Christian, Muslim, atheist or "tinfoil hat". What unites us is that we all do it Cheesy

it is very hard not to fall for the tit-for-tat trap, I try to avoid it but sometimes I just have to make a point. Am I a hypocrite? In a sense, yes. But at least I can admit it Grin

this if course is very true...we are a diverse mix lets face it..

so much in common yet almost nothing at the same time..

we have not learnt to live with each other... maybe another 2 or 3 hundreds years who knows...

but looking at the middle east...it looks like never happening...

difference of opinion if great we would be robots otherwise... its how we deal with it that counts..

look at anger look how destructive that is.... yet its almost a way of life today...even on here you can feel the anger although maybe thats just me.....

a lot I see written in jest but its taken badly... others its as if they cannot say enough bad things in the one post it all boils over...

tell you the truth I dont deal with that type. so I dont see a lot of what you guys see...sprint has always been ok as far as I can see....so from a personal point of view I have never felt abused by him...... thankfully.

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Reply #38 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 4:54pm

One could even say that we are devolving as a race, when we are supposed to be evolving, but history repeats itself in all forms.

"Nothing is new" is a quote that stands out for me. You'd think, especially in the case of religion, that followers of separate faiths could at least identity that they believe in God, but instead we have this concept that if you believe in God with a different name, you're evil or "infidel" and should be killed.

I think a lot of it is focusing on negatives, and not positives. If we all believed in one thing and one thing only, life would be extremely boring. But do we need to take it as far as hurting each other? I don't think it's necessary.

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Because everything would be what it isn't.
And contrary-wise - what it is, it wouldn't be.
And what it wouldn't be, it would.
You see?

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Reply #39 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 5:03pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

On the spiritual forum I delete posts with ease.Those that post there constructively and genuinely there do so in safety.

you mean those posts that agree with your point of view?

That isn't 100% true. For an example, Sprinty knows that I don't agree a lot of the aspects of organised religion. Sprinty's faith is of that -- organised religion. He will delete posts if they contain mockery which is no different to personal abuse, really. I don't think he really cares what you believe, it's more about how you conduct yourself. You can express an opinion without pulling the p!ss, which is what I have done in the Spirituality forum, none of my posts have been deleted, if anything, he applauds them -- but do they contradict with his beliefs? Yes.

disagree ... i merely questioned one of

his

comments and he deleted it. .. it was on topic since it was his comment to start with, and there was no mockery or abuse ...

he was probably too busy playing the vicitim to think about it anyway

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Reply #40 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 5:07pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

On the spiritual forum I delete posts with ease.Those that post there constructively and genuinely there do so in safety.

you mean those posts that agree with your point of view?

That isn't 100% true. For an example, Sprinty knows that I don't agree a lot of the aspects of organised religion. Sprinty's faith is of that -- organised religion. He will delete posts if they contain mockery which is no different to personal abuse, really. I don't think he really cares what you believe, it's more about how you conduct yourself. You can express an opinion without pulling the p!ss, which is what I have done in the Spirituality forum, none of my posts have been deleted, if anything, he applauds them -- but do they contradict with his beliefs? Yes.

That's about it.
Feel free to constructively criticise organised belief systems.
If you just want to go in and just make some sarcastic offensive meaningless offtopic remark against anything it may be deleted.

If your don't accept other beliefs and you express that in an abusive sarcastic meaningless manner it may be deleted.

I accept others have differing viewpoints. That's a basic sign of spiritual maturity.
If I did not, it would show the weakness of my faith.

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Reply #41 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 5:07pm

I think we are becoming soft we have an "if we ignore it will die a natural death"...its too hard today to deal with WRONG or BAD..someone does a murder its almost all on video... it takes sometimes years to get to court and then they get off with a technicality a twist of words.. did they intend to kill..

WOW... we have gone mad.. sure when it came to crime and punishment our history wasnt that great but bloody hell.. what we are doing right now is giving bad people so much rope so many rights to do the wrong thing...

even on here you see people going into bat for the villain even the head hunters have been driven to do what they do by someone else.. Roll Eyes

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there is more whoha today if the referee makes a mistake in the Grand Final than there is about pure injustice....

not sure that opn topic.. Wink

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: personal abuse of me Reply #42 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 5:10pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 5:07pm: That's about it. I accept others have differing viewpoints. That's a basic sign of spiritual maturity. liar ... you deleted ALL my comments, not just the ones where I had a go at you
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Reply #43 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 5:12pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 5:07pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:21am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 4^th, 2014 at 10:05am:

On the spiritual forum I delete posts with ease.Those that post there constructively and genuinely there do so in safety.

you mean those posts that agree with your point of view?

That isn't 100% true. For an example, Sprinty knows that I don't agree a lot of the aspects of organised religion. Sprinty's faith is of that -- organised religion. He will delete posts if they contain mockery which is no different to personal abuse, really. I don't think he really cares what you believe, it's more about how you conduct yourself. You can express an opinion without pulling the p!ss, which is what I have done in the Spirituality forum, none of my posts have been deleted, if anything, he applauds them -- but do they contradict with his beliefs? Yes.

That's about it.
Feel free to constructively criticise organised belief systems.
If you just want to go in and just make some sarcastic offensive meaningless offtopic remark against anything it may be deleted.

If your don't accept other beliefs and you express that in an abusive sarcastic meaningless manner it may be deleted.

I accept others have differing viewpoints. That's a basic sign of spiritual maturity.
If I did not, it would show the weakness of my faith.

you dont think thats a case OF POWER GONE MAD?..

whos to say something is sarcastic??.. I often think I am being sarcastic but the other end takes it for real..

you sound over the top to me sprint...it is being able to talk about our different viewpoints.,.. and dont forget on here you are not interrupted..that makes us humans using our brains..

religion is what most wars are about....and yet you say you pick and chose whos viewpoint you want to listen too...and what others are entitled to listen/read .. thats bullying thats not moderating.

isnt that what ISLI is doing????......

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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: personal abuse of me Reply #44 - Oct 4^th, 2014 at 5:50pm Why is sprint even a Mod on any topic here?
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