Aussie wrote on Oct 6^th, 2014 at 2:35pm:



I DID NOT MAKE THAT SUGGESTION>..

I suggested a thread.......probably on feedback where this has arisen..PA rubbish it may be... its a blatant use of peoples IDs... that IS NOT RUBBISH aussie and well you know it..

if the boot was on the other foot you would have been making a lot of noise about it...on both forums from what I can gather...

what i have seen so far is most of the names used were not people who are members over there????

is that a coincidence????????????..

Aussie wrote on Oct 6^th, 2014 at 2:35pm:


If you were trying to keep the "PA rubbish" away from this place you would not have coerced OzPol members to sign up at PA in order to vote for you in the first place. 

You would also not then have told PA that no OzPol members would post at the 'sewer' of PA until the current Admin was overthrown, you were instated as Admin (because they all really love your style) and certain PA members had been banned.

You crossed the line and whoever said it was 'unethical' was entirely correct.

Naturally PA wanted to know why these OzPol members thought so badly of the Admin at PA and its members.  You were asked by several people to make a thread here and clear all these new members that you initially swore as genuine.

Take responsibility for what you set in motion by way of deception.

Cods, you can see the memberlist without logging in.  What is being discussed starts on page 10 and continues to page 12.

Black Orchid wrote on Oct 6^th, 2014 at 3:04pm:



wow.. aussie said he reported it as fake to FD right from the beginning...

no one coerced  us to join

we didnt know we had..

Neferti wrote on Oct 6^th, 2014 at 3:12pm:


PS.  Anyone on the Members List who did NOT register over there should PM Skippy and ask him to remove your "name" (as Skippy offered on the previous page).

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No one said you did.  mantra posted up there ^^^^ that she had made the suggestion, which she did at PA when this fraud was emerging there.  I did not adopt it, preferring, as you can see, to remind freediver about an important PM.  I did not want this Board to have to endure PA dramas.  It has already de-railed this Feedback Thread.

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Be very cautious as to whom you allow your self to be swayed by in this matter.  You may be firing the bullets for others with their own special aganda.



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I am not clear what you mean.  There are real, genuine Members here who joined PA and who voted for me in that election.  As is now being discussed, some-one - with intent to corrupt the election process and in a ploy to discredit those genuine people, some-one who opposed my being elected - then registered, one after the other, the names of posters here and voted, one by one, using that name - for me.  There was a rush of them in the final hours before the Poll closed.  The idea is - if it could be shown that one was a fraud, i.e., not a genuine Member here, then freediver would have to spend time and effort contacting many people here to see if it was really them who registered and voted over there.

It is now clear because of what you said, that one of the false new Members was a 'Cods.'

While I would love it if the perpetrator/s was/were caught and dealt with, the chances of that happening are very remote, unless proper authorities became involved, and that will not happen.  Nothing illegal occurred.

The false accounts would have been created using dodgy email addresses for each one, and the false votes would all likely have been posted through proxy servers.  In short, it is a job for IT experts and beyond the skills of freediver, so far as I know, to get to the bottom of.

I should add cods......it is this very sort of crap which I am trying to rid PA of, but it is continually being dragged back into a sewer by a few idiots.  This election fraud is just the latest.

cods wrote on Oct 6^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:


As Neferti and Skippy have both said, PM Skippy and he can delete your ID.