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longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2 nd, 2014 at 8:12am: perceptions_now wrote on Oct 1 st, 2014 at 6:46pm: longweekend58 wrote on Oct 1 st, 2014 at 5:24pm: DaS Energy wrote on Oct 1 st, 2014 at 5:21pm: longweekend58 wrote on Oct 1 st, 2014 at 5:14pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 1 st, 2014 at 2:29pm: Actually self regulation in natural gas extraction is just as good as/ and often better than - statutory requirements.
The industry has been consolidating on extraction techniques and found that by shutting off deep dive valves and pumping all of it through 2 specific channels - we get both more gas and also the natural seepage rates reduce down to negligable amounts - certainly comparable to when the process first began large production.
I'd not do down self-regulation smithy, its certainly not companies doing what they like. The industry has very high standards or safety and public concern. CSG is safe pre se, but only when proper EXTERNAL regulation and monitoring is done. And what many of you could do well is to go a proper industry course and find out exactly what CSG is and how it operates. Most of the nonsense you get from Lock the Gate and others is opinion without information. Bullshit. Uncontrolled fracking opens up drinking water reserves to pollution! no it doesn't. and unlike you, I actually know what I am talking about. "You know this", because that is what "you believe"?
As with everything, no matter what we are told & who is telling us, it needs to be backed up by what is happening, in the REAL WORLD! And, the real world is telling us - Family awarded $3 million in first US fracking trial After three years of legal wrangling, a Texas family has won its case against a company engaged in hydraulic fracturing near their home. The family, which suffered tangible health deterioration after the fracking began, was awarded $3 million.
A Dallas jury ruled Tuesday in favor of the Parr family, which sued Aruba Petroleum in 2011 after each member of the family noticed a decline in health that, their attorneys argued in court, was the result of dozens of gas wells surrounding their home in Wise County, Texas.
The family was awarded nearly $3 million in what is believed to be the first fracking trial in US history. The Parrs – Bob, Lisa, and their daughter Emma – said their health suffered beginning just months after hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, operations started in their area, which was in 2008. Lisa said her breathing was impaired, and she was inflicted with nausea and headaches. Bob reported suddenly having around three nosebleeds per week, an anomaly compared to the rest of his life, he said. And Emma also reported nosebleeds, as well as nausea and rashes. She was diagnosed with asthma soon after the drilling began.
“We can’t drink our well water,” Bob Parr told Dallas’ FOX 4 in 2011. “We can’t breathe the air without getting sick.” The lawsuit was definitely not the first levied against a fracking company over health impacts, though it has been common for plaintiffs in such cases to settle with companies along with agreeing to strict gag orders. “When evidence of fracking’s impacts are shown to an impartial jury in a court of law, they find them to be real and significant,” Earthworks Energy Program Director Bruce Baizel said in a statement. “And it shows why the fracking industry is reluctant to allow lawsuits of this type to go to trial.” “We hope this lawsuit will make regulators, in Texas and around the country, reexamine their assumptions about fracking’s dangers, and their responsibility to keep the public safe,” Baizel said. To unleash natural gas deep underground, fracking requires large volumes of water, sand, and chemicals to be pumped underground. This process has been linked to groundwater contamination, seismic activity, and a laundry list of health concerns for humans and the local environment. http://rt.com/usa/154408-fracking-trial-family-sued/Plus more at - https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=a7srVPeZBOTVmQWZ34DIAQ#q=US+Fracking+Law... wow... you would have us believe that fracking is the first industrial development to ever have a problem. the issue isn't about SINGLE incidents but about the actual practice. there have been demonstrable improvements in CSG (which isn't just fracking btw) over the years. It's not a SINGLE incident, there are a great number of "incidents"!https://www.google.com.au/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=a7srVPeZBOTVmQWZ34DIAQ#q=US+Fracking+Law...
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