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Sep 30^th, 2014 at 1:35pm

Why is China having trouble with the religion of peace, China has not attacked any muslim countries.

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An overtly heavy security presence throughout Xinjiang has become the norm in this vast far western region of China, where bombings,mass knifings and bloody clashes with security personnel have occurred with sufficient regularity for the Chinese government to declare it the country's hotbed of terrorism

Security guards and Police officers have been stationed at schools in Xinjiang for at least a year.

www.smh.com.au/world/china-battles-homegrown-terror-fears-and-rise-of-islamic-st...

The signs in China say the niqab is not permitted.

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Xinjiang official media said that 50 people including at least 40 suspected assailants, were killed in what authorities called a terror attack.

Police took swift action and 40 attackers were either shot dead or took their own lives by setting off explosives,another 2 suspects were captured.

The blasts hit a shop,an open air market and 2 police stations around 5pm sunday.
Police said it was an organised and serious terrorist attack.
www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1600583/xinjiang-says-50-dead-54-injured-luntai-...

So what radicalised muslims in China, was it the Quran and sunnah?

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorists in China Reply #1 - Sep 30^th, 2014 at 3:04pm Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 1:35pm: Why is China having trouble with the religion of peace, China has not attacked any muslim countries. Xinjiang is a Muslim province. It was only added to China at the end of the 19th century. Therefore China did attack a Muslim country.
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Reply #2 - Sep 30^th, 2014 at 3:24pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

Why is China having trouble with the religion of peace, China has not attacked any muslim countries.

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An overtly heavy security presence throughout Xinjiang has become the norm in this vast far western region of China, where bombings,mass knifings and bloody clashes with security personnel have occurred with sufficient regularity for the Chinese government to declare it the country's hotbed of terrorism

Security guards and Police officers have been stationed at schools in Xinjiang for at least a year.

www.smh.com.au/world/china-battles-homegrown-terror-fears-and-rise-of-islamic-st...

The signs in China say the niqab is not permitted.

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Xinjiang official media said that 50 people including at least 40 suspected assailants, were killed in what authorities called a terror attack.

Police took swift action and 40 attackers were either shot dead or took their own lives by setting off explosives,another 2 suspects were captured.

The blasts hit a shop,an open air market and 2 police stations around 5pm sunday.
Police said it was an organised and serious terrorist attack.
www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1600583/xinjiang-says-50-dead-54-injured-luntai-...

So what radicalised muslims in China, was it the Quran and sunnah?

perhaps they were 'feeling alienated', so went on a murder rampage ?

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Reply #3 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:23am

|dev|null wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 3:04pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

Why is China having trouble with the religion of peace, China has not attacked any muslim countries.

Xinjiang is a Muslim province. It was only added to China at the end of the 19th century.

Xinjiang was a part of China in the Han dynasty which predates Islam by hundreds of years.

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorists in China Reply #4 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:15pm Before 1884, Xingjiang was ruled intermittently by China and other powers. It was not until that year that it was actually made a province of the Qing Empire. Even I can read Wikipedia Baron, why can't you?
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Reply #5 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:52pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

Why is China having trouble with the religion of peace

So asks the guy who wonders what all the fuss is with banning long beards.

The Chinese are attempting the same cultural genocide of the uighurs they did to the tibetans. Baron thinks the more "acceptable" reaction should be to roll over and die like the Tibetans are doing.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #6 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

Why is China having trouble with the religion of peace

So asks the guy who wonders what all the fuss is with banning long beards.

The Chinese are attempting the same cultural genocide of the uighurs they did to the tibetans. Baron thinks the more "acceptable" reaction should be to roll over and die like the Tibetans are doing.

The Tibetans aren't rolling over but they dying. There have been a succession of large and small protests, ranging from all out rioting in Lhassa through to individual self-immolations. So much so, that the Chinese government has banned any publicity for Tibets who set themselves alight because of the bad PR their rule is getting.

Xinjiang's history is actually quite interesting, particularly in the latter part of the 19th century when it was ruled by Yukeb Bey, who was an Afghan warlord who it over when the Chinese turned their backs. The Russians, the British, the Afghans and the Chinese all attempted to oust him or buy influence with him at various times, all as part of the "Great Game" of Kipling's Kim fame. None were particularly successful until he died. Then the Chinese reasserted their control and as HB pointed out, made the place a province, rather than a territory of the Chinese Empire. Today, it's where China's meagre oil reserves are, where they used to test nuclear weapons and where their space launch complex is. They have been emigrating large numbers of Han into the province for some time, attempting to overwhelm the Uighurs. Its no wonder the Uighurs are annoyed. Roll Eyes

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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1893 Brisbane Gender:	Re: Islamic terrorists in China Reply #7 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 10:54pm Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:38pm: Xinjiang's history is actually quite interesting Is it Brian, why is that? any links to back your take on history up? Where did you glean your opinion from?..........Here maybe..........http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/cmr_0008-0160_1991_num_32...
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Reply #8 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:00pm

Adamant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 10:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Xinjiang's history is actually quite interesting

Is it Brian, why is that? any links to back your take on history up?

Where did you glean your opinion from?..........Here maybe..........http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/cmr_0008-0160_1991_num_32...

Brian is a googlefu black belt.

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Reply #9 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:07pm

Adamant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 10:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Xinjiang's history is actually quite interesting

Is it Brian, why is that? any links to back your take on history up?

Where did you glean your opinion from?..........Here maybe..........http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/cmr_0008-0160_1991_num_32...

Interesting, Caliph. I'll have a read of that.

What I wrote came from a synthesis of several books I have on "The Great Game", a topic I've been interested in now for some time, ever since I read Kim by Kipling as a boy.

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Reply #10 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:07pm:

Adamant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 10:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Xinjiang's history is actually quite interesting

Is it Brian, why is that? any links to back your take on history up?

Where did you glean your opinion from?..........Here maybe..........http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/cmr_0008-0160_1991_num_32...

Interesting, Caliph. I'll have a read of that.

What I wrote came from a synthesis of several books I have on "The Great Game", a topic I've been interested in now for some time, ever since I read Kim by Kipling as a boy.

No links then Brian. Thanks for another non answer.

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Reply #11 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:30pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Before 1884, Xingjiang was ruled intermittently by China and other powers. It was not until that year that it was actually made a province of the Qing Empire. Even I can read Wikipedia Baron, why can't you? Grin

In essence then you are saying it is ok to invade a country if you are muslim but if you practice some form of other religion its not ok. Got it. don't agree with your logic, or racist bigotry. Grin

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Reply #12 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:45pm

Adamant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:07pm:

Adamant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 10:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Xinjiang's history is actually quite interesting

Is it Brian, why is that? any links to back your take on history up?

Where did you glean your opinion from?..........Here maybe..........http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/cmr_0008-0160_1991_num_32...

Interesting, Caliph. I'll have a read of that.

What I wrote came from a synthesis of several books I have on "The Great Game", a topic I've been interested in now for some time, ever since I read Kim by Kipling as a boy.

No links then Brian. Thanks for another non answer.

Brian is an academic and a historian so he typed that all from memory. Oh wait, sometimes he is not an academic...

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Brian Ross wrote:DL, I haven't claimed to be an academic. I've never been employed as one nor claimed to hold any academic standing. That is a product it appears of your febrile imagination. I'll leave you to keep up your strawmen arguments yourself.

From the nice person who hasn't even the brains to remember his previous announcements of being an academic.

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Brian Ross wrote:I have been a published academic at several points in my life, Sappho. ?

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Brian Ross wrote:Actually, DL, I referred to several webpages before I typed that out, to make sure what I remembered from my academic days was correct.

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Brian Ross wrote:You must move in very different academic circles to myself

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Brian Ross wrote:Funny, is that why whenever I or anybody else bring up their academic qualifications or knowledge you attack them personally? ?

I guess you can judge for yourself how worthwhile his claims of being a historian are. Cool

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Reply #13 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 12:35am

Adamant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:07pm:

Adamant wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 10:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Xinjiang's history is actually quite interesting

Is it Brian, why is that? any links to back your take on history up?

Where did you glean your opinion from?..........Here maybe..........http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/cmr_0008-0160_1991_num_32...

Interesting, Caliph. I'll have a read of that.

What I wrote came from a synthesis of several books I have on "The Great Game", a topic I've been interested in now for some time, ever since I read Kim by Kipling as a boy.

No links then Brian. Thanks for another non answer.

Books don't come with links, Adamant. You do know what books are, I take it? Roll Eyes

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Reply #14 - Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 9:06am

Datalife wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:45pm:

I guess you can judge for yourself how worthwhile his claims of being a historian are.

Good point. Well made. Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2014 at 12:35am:

Books don't come with links, Adamant. You do know what books are, I take it?

They do however come with titles, or have you never observed that fact. Roll Eyes

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