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Reply #15 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 10:08pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 10:00pm:
We don't know what we are, how or why we were created, where we are, where we came from or where we're going

More than a few problems to ponder.  Funny thing is, no answers.  Never

Millions of us have seen 'something' which looks identical in most respects to someone who's dead.  They're usually no smarter dead than they were when alive.  That's disturbing

We have vestigial organs which appear to have been inherited from animals.  Some claim we're descended from animals.  Someone regarded as 'learned' recently theorised that we're descended from unions between pigs and apes.  Bit of imagination and it's feasible.  After all, even the ancient Greeks were aware that mankind and swine are prone to the same illnesses and swine parts are used today in humans

So we look at it again:  creatures known as 'humans' who may be descended from swine and apes, yet which are able to appear after they're dead

Then we have precognition.  It's fact.  So the future is written.  Yet we live it as if we determine our own fate

We can put humans on the moon and send robots to Mars, it's said.  We can split the atom, transfer human faces from one person to another, make children from three parents, see the future, see the dead -- yet we know next to nothing about what the hell we actually are or where we are or where we came from or where we're going.  And we divide into different groups, each of which claims belief in whatever's supposed to be responsible for all of it

We don't remember signing on for it
We're not allowed to leave of our own accord or engage anyone to assist us to leave.  So we have to jump under buses or off cliffs etc. just to get out, causing considerable inconvenience and disruption to others

Sounds like some kind of prison, doesn't it?  Sounds as if we were press-ganged into existence

Gets worse if you accept John Lear's claims of there being a 'soul harvest tower' on the moon, which strips us of our mind's contents after we die, before spitting us right back here

Maybe the theories about the Wheel and devoting our lives and minds to escaping it at death are worth thinking about?








Definitely.

That moon harvest tower is a freaky concept, but if you relate it to reincarnating over and over until you change something within you, it kind of makes sense.

The moon itself is a strange mystery. When it's a "full moon" people are chemically altered to act like rabid animals, and then you have females on their menstrual cycle, who also turn into rabid animals.

This is the inspiration behind the werewolf myth. An interesting moon theory is that this natural satellite is actually an alien space ship, and one of the reasons behind this is because its made up of metals consistent with many of our modern weapons and aircraft.

Regardless of speculation, there's definitely something strange about the Moon. Ancient cults considered or related to the devil worshipped the moon... others, aligning with light, worshipped the sun around the same time period.
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Reply #16 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 10:10pm
 
On creation of humans, its almost like somebody chucked all the animals together in a pot, mixed the DNA up and we were the result, though there's something else unknown in this mix.

We are animals yet we are so unlike our animal relatives.
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Reply #17 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 10:37pm
 

I've always seen 'two' types of Spirituality and you kinda confirmed one of them FreeDumb.

There is the 'Spirited' spirituality of someone showing great 'spirit' in something that they do or wish to be, etc.

Then there is my more common interpretation of Spirituality via many people who call themselves 'thus' and seem to base this 'mostly' upon how they 'appear' to people - mostly via their 'Fashion': a 'physical' representation of who and what they are for others to see.
The 'Spiritual' Guide who leads the Corroboree or Shaman Dance, etc who always denotes himself with fancy attire compared to others to take the tribe into the 'spirit world' via a usual concoction of behaviour substances, etc.

Just being passive and speaking nicely without losing one's 'Cool'  Cool and sitting cross-legged is something I find hard to accept as being the 'be all' of what it means to be 'Spiritual'. There is more than just that and such behaviour is used to 'deceive' occasionally.

Anyway - to me (mostly), 'Spirituality' is something that is 'Fashioned' by a person's need for 'self' expression upon a very 'visual' appearance.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #18 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 11:20pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 10:37pm:
I've always seen 'two' types of Spirituality and you kinda confirmed one of them FreeDumb.

There is the 'Spirited' spirituality of someone showing great 'spirit' in something that they do or wish to be, etc.

Then there is my more common interpretation of Spirituality via many people who call themselves 'thus' and seem to base this 'mostly' upon how they 'appear' to people - mostly via their 'Fashion': a 'physical' representation of who and what they are for others to see.
The 'Spiritual' Guide who leads the Corroboree or Shaman Dance, etc who always denotes himself with fancy attire compared to others to take the tribe into the 'spirit world' via a usual concoction of behaviour substances, etc.

Just being passive and speaking nicely without losing one's 'Cool'  Cool and sitting cross-legged is something I find hard to accept as being the 'be all' of what it means to be 'Spiritual'. There is more than just that and such behaviour is used to 'deceive' occasionally.

Anyway - to me (mostly), 'Spirituality' is something that is 'Fashioned' by a person's need for 'self' expression upon a very 'visual' appearance.


Exactly. The New Age guru who claims he is the all-knowing is most probably a fraud with an agenda, or is being lead along by said agenda. Think predator/prey  Wink

There's more to it, I don't know exactly what this is, but there have been whispers of "hidden knowledge" that we only get bits and pieces of. A jigsaw puzzle picture is not complete without all of the pieces.
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Re: Our perceptions of spirituality
Reply #19 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 11:29pm
 
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Definitely.

That moon harvest tower is a freaky concept, but if you relate it to reincarnating over and over until you change something within you, it kind of makes sense.


The moon itself is a strange mystery. When it's a "full moon" people are chemically altered to act like rabid animals, and then you have females on their menstrual cycle, who also turn into rabid animals.

This is the inspiration behind the werewolf myth. An interesting moon theory is that this natural satellite is actually an alien space ship, and one of the reasons behind this is because its made up of metals consistent with many of our modern weapons and aircraft.

Regardless of speculation, there's definitely something strange about the Moon. Ancient cults considered or related to the devil worshipped the moon... others, aligning with light, worshipped the sun around the same time period


Freedumb, I'm close to believing Light is a big part of the mystery

Certain light (for want of a better term) has an enormous impact upon most of us - has the power to render us tranquil and contemplative or -- can make us energised or depressed

Obviously, we were designed to be affected by Light, or we've adapted/evolved that way

Years ago, I had a book dedicated to the effects of light on humans.  Still have it somewhere in storage.  Various colours of light were said to determine whether or not mice produced male or female offspring, for example.  More recently I read that shining a certain light on the back of the knees has therapeutic effects in the case of certain health conditions

When deprived of light and other sensory input, the mind compensates by generating hallucinations, etc.  Many aspects of the paranormal tend to occur when light is low or absent

Although science is still claiming the Moon has no effects on humans, billions of humans disagree with confidence, as do police, doctors, nurses, psychiatric institutions, etc.  While humans agree the light of the Moon is merely reflected light, that's not all it is.  Who knows why?  But billions of humans, past and current, have been in no doubt the Moon nevertheless affects human behaviours and mood


When it comes to reincarnation, I'm conflicted.  Not so much about its validity, but rather the fact it could be imposed.  That it could be imposed really angers me.  I consider it to be abuse, a violation.  It certainly does away with all concepts of free-will, choice, if it's established someday that reincarnation is a fact

Some might regard reincarnation with delight.  And certainly it's a seductive concept for those addicted to the physical and material

Lear's theory of the soul-catching tower on the Moon was something I considered so outrageous and vile that I told him so and rejected it (he'd raised the matter in a forum).  He took it with good grace.  I still consider the concept too vile to accept.  Don't know what happens to those who resist, but it's what I'll try to do if possible and if it occurs
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Reply #20 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 11:40pm
 
Spirituality, for me, resides within, is inherent within the individual and is his sense of connection with something, maybe many things, beyond himself

Spirituality, imo, has nothing to do with external appearances or the effect an individual may or may not have (or wish to have) upon others

Spirituality is a personal space, sense of connection with both the physical and non-physical worlds, imo

It's what it says:  the spirit of the individual who senses other spirits, be they dead, alive, human, non-human

I don't believe at all the assertion that ''Spirituality' is something that is 'Fashioned' by a person's need for 'self' expression upon a very 'visual' appearance'.  Don't agree with it at all and regard it as evidence of a superficial or non-existent sense of spirituality on the part of the claimant

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Reply #21 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 8:42pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 11:29pm:
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Definitely.

That moon harvest tower is a freaky concept, but if you relate it to reincarnating over and over until you change something within you, it kind of makes sense.


The moon itself is a strange mystery. When it's a "full moon" people are chemically altered to act like rabid animals, and then you have females on their menstrual cycle, who also turn into rabid animals.

This is the inspiration behind the werewolf myth. An interesting moon theory is that this natural satellite is actually an alien space ship, and one of the reasons behind this is because its made up of metals consistent with many of our modern weapons and aircraft.

Regardless of speculation, there's definitely something strange about the Moon. Ancient cults considered or related to the devil worshipped the moon... others, aligning with light, worshipped the sun around the same time period


Freedumb, I'm close to believing Light is a big part of the mystery

Certain light (for want of a better term) has an enormous impact upon most of us - has the power to render us tranquil and contemplative or -- can make us energised or depressed

Obviously, we were designed to be affected by Light, or we've adapted/evolved that way

Years ago, I had a book dedicated to the effects of light on humans.  Still have it somewhere in storage.  Various colours of light were said to determine whether or not mice produced male or female offspring, for example.  More recently I read that shining a certain light on the back of the knees has therapeutic effects in the case of certain health conditions

When deprived of light and other sensory input, the mind compensates by generating hallucinations, etc.  Many aspects of the paranormal tend to occur when light is low or absent

Although science is still claiming the Moon has no effects on humans, billions of humans disagree with confidence, as do police, doctors, nurses, psychiatric institutions, etc.  While humans agree the light of the Moon is merely reflected light, that's not all it is.  Who knows why?  But billions of humans, past and current, have been in no doubt the Moon nevertheless affects human behaviours and mood


When it comes to reincarnation, I'm conflicted.  Not so much about its validity, but rather the fact it could be imposed.  That it could be imposed really angers me.  I consider it to be abuse, a violation.  It certainly does away with all concepts of free-will, choice, if it's established someday that reincarnation is a fact

Some might regard reincarnation with delight.  And certainly it's a seductive concept for those addicted to the physical and material

Lear's theory of the soul-catching tower on the Moon was something I considered so outrageous and vile that I told him so and rejected it (he'd raised the matter in a forum).  He took it with good grace.  I still consider the concept too vile to accept.  Don't know what happens to those who resist, but it's what I'll try to do if possible and if it occurs


I think light plays a role as well... I mean look at the sun, for instance. It was worshipped because the ancients figured out without it, there would be no life. The sun gives us light -- we would not be able to see the physical world without the sun.

If the NWO's agenda of control is spiritual control at the very core, it makes sense that they have concocted some psychological or spiritual strategy to make us continue to reincarnate over and over. I was thinking the other day that if I had a choice in the matter, would I have really chosen this mad world?

I'm not sure if that thinking alone can prevent me from "coming back" after I die.
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