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Has Abbott overturned the presumption of innocence already?

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Did they? What the corporate media doesn't tell you is that hundreds of Muslims were at the mosque to pray their Friday prayers which had nothing to with the funeral.

In Islamic tradition funerals are held to coincide with regular daily or weekly prayers which guarantees a crowd at every funeral- especially if it is held during the Friday weekly prayer.

I wonder if ASIO had a spy at the funeral taking pictures.  I bet they did.

mrkamikaze wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:


It would be a total waste of time, because there would be so many people at the mosque who just went for Friday prayers.

Hundreds of useless photos. Money well spent. How is the budget deficit going anyway? Better give ASIO another half billion to take photos of people at the mosque.

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 1:49pm:


I thought you believed they were radicalised 'cause they were Muslims?   

So what does 'jihad' mean?

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:








Jihad = = religious fighting in Allah's cause

"Jihad is the pinnacle of ISLAM."

....is a refrain often declared among moslems



Google;
jihad - is the pinnacle of islam


Google;
Jihad operationsiFIGHTING FOR ALLAH'S CAUSE, is 'the reason for being', of the pure and the true moslem.

A small example from the sunna of Mohammed....


"[The Prophet said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's Cause)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.053


"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadith/bukhari #004.052.065
hadith/bukhari #004.052.080i


"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadith/bukhari #001.002.025



And from ISLAMIC LAW....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

moses wrote on Sep 30^th, 2014 at 6:36pm:


As usual you tell only the half of the story that reinforces your prejudices, Moses.   Jihad has multiple meanings.  It can mean a personal religious struggle or a collective militant religious struggle or even war.  It all depends on the context.