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Redmond Neck

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Ban all islamic schools...Be an Aussie!
Sep 25^th, 2014 at 7:39pm

How do we bring the musos into being real Australians that mix and live together in harmony!

Ban their friggin schools that are isolate them from the normal Aussie community and indocrinate them into the them and us mentality.

This is different to other religious schools in that they have no interest in intergrating with the normal christian society in Oz

Do their children join in normal community activities, sports etc, I doubt it

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BAN ALL THESE ABO SITES RECOGNITIONS.

ALL AUSTRALIA IS FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS!

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Taipan Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1091 SouthWest Sydney Gender:	Re: Ban all islamic schools...Be an Aussie! Reply #1 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 7:42pm Don't want them to mix. Just want them to leave our country ASAP.
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Reply #2 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 8:32pm

Section 116 of the Constitution would prevent this IMO.

Why should Islam be the only religion to be prevented from being able to establish their own, private schools? Roll Eyes

As long as they teach to the approved education curricula and do not engage in proselytising Islamism and Terrorist beliefs, I see no more harm in them having their own schools than Christians/Jews/Hindus/etc. Further, they should receive the same level of Government support as do all other private schools (something I privately disagree with but recognise it does exist).

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 43796	Re: Ban all islamic schools...Be an Aussie! Reply #3 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 8:33pm Taipan wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 7:42pm: Don't want them to mix. Just want them to leave our country ASAP. Why should they have to if they are citizens? They have as much claim to be here as you do.
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Reply #4 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 8:36pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 7:39pm:

How do we bring the musos into being real Australians that mix and live together in harmony!

Ban their friggin schools that are isolate them from the normal Aussie community and indocrinate them into the them and us mentality.

This is different to other religious schools in that they have no interest in intergrating with the normal christian society in Oz

Do their children join in normal community activities, sports etc, I doubt it

There is substantial anecdotal evidence that the few muslims who choose extremism and terrorism in this country, are those who are outside the fold of mainstream islamic institutions including mosques and schools. A 2008 British Intelligence report acknowledged that British Islamic institutions have a de-radicalising effect.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Bobby.

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Reply #5 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 9:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 8:32pm:

Section 116 of the Constitution would prevent this IMO.

Why should Islam be the only religion to be prevented from being able to establish their own, private schools? Roll Eyes

As long as they teach to the approved education curricula and do not engage in proselytising Islamism and Terrorist beliefs, I see no more harm in them having their own schools than Christians/Jews/Hindus/etc. Further, they should receive the same level of Government support as do all other private schools (something I privately disagree with but recognise it does exist).

Do we give Islamic schools money?

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Black Orchid Gold Member Offline Posts: 5818 Gender:	Re: Ban all islamic schools...Be an Aussie! Reply #6 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 9:13pm They receive both state and federal funding. Not long ago a Sydney Islamic school was ordered to pay back $9M when it was found out that the funds were being diverted to AFIC.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 110562 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ban all islamic schools...Be an Aussie! Reply #7 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 9:15pm Black Orchid wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 9:13pm: They receive both state and federal funding. Not long ago a Sydney Islamic school was ordered to pay back $9M when it was found out that the funds were being diverted to AFIC. shame
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Reply #8 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 9:16pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 8:36pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 7:39pm:

How do we bring the musos into being real Australians that mix and live together in harmony!

Ban their friggin schools that are isolate them from the normal Aussie community and indocrinate them into the them and us mentality.

This is different to other religious schools in that they have no interest in intergrating with the normal christian society in Oz

Do their children join in normal community activities, sports etc, I doubt it

There is substantial anecdotal evidence that the few muslims who choose extremism and terrorism in this country, are those who are outside the fold of mainstream islamic institutions including mosques and schools. A 2008 British Intelligence report acknowledged that British Islamic institutions have a de-radicalising effect.

Are you outside the fold of mainstream Islamic institutions Gandalf?

How do Islamic schools fit in with your alienation theory of Islamic terrorism?

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Reply #9 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 9:21pm

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An investigation ordered by the government found a "sustained, co-ordinated agenda to impose segregationist attitudes and practices of a hardline, politicised strain of Sunni Islam" in several Birmingham schools. It found that a group of governors and senior teachers had been promoting Islamic extremism. It identified the Muslim Council of Britain and the Association of Muslim Schools as organisations "[stemming] from an international movement to increase the role of Islam in education".[1]

Peter Clarke, former counterterrorism chief conducted the investigation which examined gathered 2,000 documents and generated 2,000 pages of interview transcripts from 50 witnesses, including former headteachers, teachers, council staff and school governors. He said some of the witnesses had been very nervous and anxious. He found "very clear evidence" that young people were encouraged to "accept unquestionably a particular hardline strand of Sunni Islam that raises concerns about their vulnerability to radicalisation in the future." It described the ideology being promoted as: "an intolerant and politicised form of extreme social conservatism that claims to represent and ultimately seeks to control all Muslims. In its separatist assertions and attempts to subvert normal processes it amounts to what is often described as Islamism."[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Horse

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"If they’re out there in the high seas, what you would do is seek to turn them back through the agency of the Australian Navy".

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 97969	Re: Ban all islamic schools...Be an Aussie! Reply #10 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 12:02am I hate them. Ban.them.
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Brian Ross

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Reply #11 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 12:22am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 9:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 8:32pm:

Section 116 of the Constitution would prevent this IMO.

Why should Islam be the only religion to be prevented from being able to establish their own, private schools? Roll Eyes

As long as they teach to the approved education curricula and do not engage in proselytising Islamism and Terrorist beliefs, I see no more harm in them having their own schools than Christians/Jews/Hindus/etc. Further, they should receive the same level of Government support as do all other private schools (something I privately disagree with but recognise it does exist).

Do we give Islamic schools money?

Yes.

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Re: Ban all islamic schools...Be an Aussie!
Reply #12 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 8:45am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 12:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 9:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 8:32pm:

Section 116 of the Constitution would prevent this IMO.

Why should Islam be the only religion to be prevented from being able to establish their own, private schools? Roll Eyes

As long as they teach to the approved education curricula and do not engage in proselytising Islamism and Terrorist beliefs, I see no more harm in them having their own schools than Christians/Jews/Hindus/etc. Further, they should receive the same level of Government support as do all other private schools (something I privately disagree with but recognise it does exist).

Do we give Islamic schools money?

Yes.

Then we try to get it back when we realise what they do with it.

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Re: Ban all islamic schools...Be an Aussie!
Reply #13 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 8:50am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 9:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 8:32pm:

Section 116 of the Constitution would prevent this IMO.

Why should Islam be the only religion to be prevented from being able to establish their own, private schools? Roll Eyes

As long as they teach to the approved education curricula and do not engage in proselytising Islamism and Terrorist beliefs, I see no more harm in them having their own schools than Christians/Jews/Hindus/etc. Further, they should receive the same level of Government support as do all other private schools (something I privately disagree with but recognise it does exist).

Do we give Islamic schools money?

Yes, we do bobby.

Coz, 'ISLAM is peace!' Tongue

bobby,

Australia has even funded the building of

ISLAMIC schools

, in Indonesia.

We do these type of things, to show moslems in Indonesia that we Australians really, really, really, do understand that 'ISLAM is peace!' Tongue

n.b. these are RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS we are funding!!!!

from Yadda's archive....
A $29 MILLION GIFT FROM AUSTRALIA, TOWARDS THE ISLAMIC JIHAD.
....why are we so, so, dumb????

Australia unveils Islamic schools for Indon
Aug 2, 2007
Australia's ambassador to Indonesia and the secretary-general of the Indonesian Ministry for Religious Affairs have opened 46 new Islamic schools as part of a $29 million gift from Australia.
Work on **another 255** of the schools, known as madrasahs, will start in a few weeks.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/02/1994501.htm?section=justin

[the link may be old, but the news report is kosher]

duh! duh! duh!

And where do those Islamic schools in Indonesia get their texts books to teach their children?
....Saudi Arabia.

Google,
Islamic schools in Indonesia Saudi texts books

So we can teach moslem children in Indonesia that 'ISLAM is peace!'..... Cheesy

“When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks…”
Koran 47:4

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22125 A cat with a view	Re: Ban all islamic schools...Be an Aussie! Reply #14 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 8:56am updated link to the story, Australia, funding ISLAMIC schools in Indonesia..... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-08-02/australia-unveils-islamic-schools-for-indo...
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