longweekend58 wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 7:54pm:


Well when they alter the word "terrorism" to encompass not just middle eastern appearance we may admit it actually exists here, now that we have a LNP government naturally it's been brought to our attention , obviously it was never there until a few weeks ago, not even when were still  fighting Howards war in IRAQ for near on 5 extra years after his departure. Why has it just magically appeared? What is Terrorism Longy? Humour us with your acumen.

Anyone who has studied terrorism knows instantly that the most terrorism in human history has been that perpetrated by government.

Now, friends, this is what I mean about them fancy dancing academics.. I could not, under any circumstances, get across to a Professor of Peace Studies that violence in a society starts and finishes with government and its approach to issues and people.  When government behaviour says 'violence by us is the way things are done', then it permeates down through all of society and you end up with school bullies.

You see an extreme example of this with IS - their chosen way is violence - ergo , any and every idiot within cannon shot of them and much further sees that violence is the only way.  IS is a government in being even if not by our 'elected' standards.

Similarly, we see Joe Hockey and his tantrum behaviour - tantrum is brinkmanship - 'if you don't give me what I want, I will make it so bad for you you will have to give it' - which is another form of violence.

If the human race, and we as a country, are ever going to get ahead socially and as thinking human beings, we desperately need a government that understand those simple things, and actually behaves as if they do.

Bring on the Enlightened Government.

for the purists who have no desire to engage in philosophicval discussion:-

HERE!!!

"terrorism
ˈtɛrərɪzəm/
noun
noun: terrorism

    the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims."

That should open your eyes, you Infidels out there who do not accord with the true way of Grappelr....

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 8:08pm:


well the CHOGM bombing in Sydney was only 'alleged'.

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 8:25pm:




No, it actually happened.

You really need help with that pathological lying.

In a different perspective, some 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/staggering-statistics-on-muslims-...

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 8:27pm:


I would be interested in hearing what Peccerhead considers to be the number one terrorist threat to the first world secular democracies if he doesn't consider it to be any of the various flavours and alphabet soup of Islamism?

Ugreggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 8:51pm:


Your inability and unwillingness to respond is its own answer Peccerhead. You know the reality, just afraid to say it. How funny is that.   

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 8:51pm:

It’s like gravity or time - you just know it.

You can count  the basques and the localised tearaways burning rubbish bins - but terrorism with a global reach AND global aim is Islamic. One or two countries may have issues with some local punks but dozens have problems with the islamic ones.
Your stats are calculted to smudge rather than illuminate the issue. That is why they are so attractive to you.
10 million muslims have been killed by other muslims since WWII. Religion peace.