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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #105 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:57am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:43am:

It is undeniable that Islam is becoming more radical and some of its followers pose a risk to anyone who does not follow the teachings of the Koran.....To ignore the atrocities carried out in the name of Islam and draw parallels to other forms of terrorism is a straw man argument, of course some Muslims pose a risk to societies all over the world and to deny this is denying reality.....Islam is a misogynist religion where woman are denied equality and must conform to the will of men....Until Islam allows woman and non believers the right to equal freedom I am afraid we should not accept it is anything but an oppressive religion that does not practice tolerance and is not peaceful as many claim IMO!!!

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Everyone ought to worship God according to his own inclinations, and not to be constrained by force.
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that's a good post phil, but you are an odd=bod to put it mildly. you write the above which is demonstrable true and yet tomorrow you will have an issue with Abbott and you will post nearly the exact opposite. When you arent bitching about Abbott you are a good poster but as soon as he comes into the picture your posts devolve rather rapidly.

but still a good post.

I condemn anything I believe to be against the greater good of society and do not make excuses for any Government.....I do not post to get approval from anyone I just state my opinion.....I am not surprised that seams odd to someone who is blinded by partisan ideology!!!

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #106 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:30pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 7:59am:

Lobo wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Lobo wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 7:18pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 7:10pm:

Lobo wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 4:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:51pm:

Dear Longy,
many blessings.

Is that the same as condemning pedophilia in the churches?

It took a Labor government to start a royal commission into that.

You seem to love the christian religion but when did you ever
condemn all the arse clowns that are in every church?

you are forgiven

namaste

I don't know about 'every church', but I did see that Hillsong is the latest to be pulled in.

Cheesy

do you have any links to that? after all, you are not exactly renowned to telling the truth or interpreting anything correctly.

Child abuse royal commission to look at allegations against father of Hillsong founder
Churches’ reaction to allegations against Pentecostal preacher Frank Houston and two other men to be focus of public hearing.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/18/child-abuse-royal-commission-to-loo...

And, of course, you can provide links to my untruths????

Matthew 7:5

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…4"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye?
5"You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

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you are not exactly renowned to telling the truth

And, of course, you can provide links to my untruths????

Still waiting, longy.....

Put up, or shut up.
Retract, or apologise.

it is a 20yo allegation NOT against hillsong but the father of the man who founded it. nor was it some kind of continued abuse as has occured in so many other places. Perhaps what is so telling is that in an attempt to smear Hillsong and the Pentecostal church all they can do is bring up a single instance occurring in NZ 20 years ago by the relative of the pastor. not exactly a smoking gun.

Which does not detract from my original statement....

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I don't know about 'every church', but I did see that Hillsong is the latest to be pulled in.

Now....
About those lies I am supposed to come up with.

Found any proof yet?
Links??

Put up, or shut up!!

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #107 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:44pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:30am:

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Stilll can't substantiate your claim, Longy?

Admit you lied.

it has been more than substantiated ...

Incorrect. Stop telling lies.

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic"

Can you substantiate that claim?

Quote:

.. if you had proof otherwise you would have been quick to say so.

The onus is on you: you're the one who made the claim that "terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Still waiting for you to substantiate that claim.

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #108 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:45pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:03pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:52am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:16am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:13am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:06am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 7:58am:

Longweekend believes in the prosperity message:

God will get him a new car while he leaves millions of starving kids in Africa lying in the dirt covered in flies.

look booby, if you are going to go on the attack at least get your message slightly accurate otherwise you look like a m*oron. do you want to compare how many African kids you support or how many charities you support or how much money you give to support the poor? want to talk about how much time you spend helping the poor?

yes, I have a great car. I worked for it and your jealousy is funny if a little sad.

now at least try and aim your attacks at the destination where I live.

you are an idiot ... you have a Ford, a piece of crap car .... you wouldn't know a great car if it ran over you

sounds envious. what is your car? Mine is a black FPV GT 0-100 in 5.9 brilliant handling awesome sound and even now still a head-turner.

and you own a camry... the only car that should come with its own cardigan.

I told you it was a piece of sh1t.... does it have a bid d1ck on the front grill?

and no, i don't own a camry ... not surprising you got that wrong too

well u didnt admit what you drive so kinda proves my point just the same although why you care what I drive is beyond me.

If you must know what I drive I have both a toyota Prado and a toyota Hilux .

I'm surprised to hear that you both had a point and think I cared Grin

I just found it hillarious that anyone who drives a glorified ford falcon can gloat about their car ......

and you drive a Hilux??? that is something to be particularly proud of???

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #109 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:47pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:57am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:43am:

It is undeniable that Islam is becoming more radical and some of its followers pose a risk to anyone who does not follow the teachings of the Koran.....To ignore the atrocities carried out in the name of Islam and draw parallels to other forms of terrorism is a straw man argument, of course some Muslims pose a risk to societies all over the world and to deny this is denying reality.....Islam is a misogynist religion where woman are denied equality and must conform to the will of men....Until Islam allows woman and non believers the right to equal freedom I am afraid we should not accept it is anything but an oppressive religion that does not practice tolerance and is not peaceful as many claim IMO!!!

Huh

Everyone ought to worship God according to his own inclinations, and not to be constrained by force.
Flavius Josephus (37 AD - 100 AD), Life

that's a good post phil, but you are an odd=bod to put it mildly. you write the above which is demonstrable true and yet tomorrow you will have an issue with Abbott and you will post nearly the exact opposite. When you arent bitching about Abbott you are a good poster but as soon as he comes into the picture your posts devolve rather rapidly.

but still a good post.

I condemn anything I believe to be against the greater good of society and do not make excuses for any Government.....I do not post to get approval from anyone I just state my opinion.....I am not surprised that seams odd to someone who is blinded by partisan ideology!!!

Roll Eyes

well it was only on the weekend you were posting how the threat doesn't exist... I M just confused by your opinions as they seem to vary according to the presence of an 'Abbott influence', But you at least are not pretending the raids were faked. that unfortunately, sets you apart.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #110 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:49pm

Lobo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 7:59am:

Lobo wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 10:17pm:

Lobo wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 7:18pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 7:10pm:

Lobo wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 4:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:51pm:

Dear Longy,
many blessings.

Is that the same as condemning pedophilia in the churches?

It took a Labor government to start a royal commission into that.

You seem to love the christian religion but when did you ever
condemn all the arse clowns that are in every church?

you are forgiven

namaste

I don't know about 'every church', but I did see that Hillsong is the latest to be pulled in.

Cheesy

do you have any links to that? after all, you are not exactly renowned to telling the truth or interpreting anything correctly.

Child abuse royal commission to look at allegations against father of Hillsong founder
Churches’ reaction to allegations against Pentecostal preacher Frank Houston and two other men to be focus of public hearing.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/18/child-abuse-royal-commission-to-loo...

And, of course, you can provide links to my untruths????

Matthew 7:5

Quote:

…4"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye?
5"You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

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you are not exactly renowned to telling the truth

And, of course, you can provide links to my untruths????

Still waiting, longy.....

Put up, or shut up.
Retract, or apologise.

it is a 20yo allegation NOT against hillsong but the father of the man who founded it. nor was it some kind of continued abuse as has occured in so many other places. Perhaps what is so telling is that in an attempt to smear Hillsong and the Pentecostal church all they can do is bring up a single instance occurring in NZ 20 years ago by the relative of the pastor. not exactly a smoking gun.

Which does not detract from my original statement....

Quote:

I don't know about 'every church', but I did see that Hillsong is the latest to be pulled in.

Now....
About those lies I am supposed to come up with.

Found any proof yet?
Links??

Put up, or shut up!!

A) I thought it was booby who made the claim so apologies for that as everyone know booby rarely gets anything right.
B) it is still ONE accusation from 20 years ago out of one of the biggest churches in the world and a huge denomination. Im not sure how that proves anything much at all.

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #111 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:30am:

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Stilll can't substantiate your claim, Longy?

Admit you lied.

it has been more than substantiated ...

Incorrect. Stop telling lies.

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic"

Can you substantiate that claim?

Quote:

.. if you had proof otherwise you would have been quick to say so.

The onus is on you: you're the one who made the claim that "terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Still waiting for you to substantiate that claim.

well I looked thru all the terrorist attacks in recent years and they are all Islamic so... there you go. feel free to dispute it peccahead.

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #112 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:30am:

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Stilll can't substantiate your claim, Longy?

Admit you lied.

it has been more than substantiated ...

Incorrect. Stop telling lies.

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic"

Can you substantiate that claim?

Quote:

.. if you had proof otherwise you would have been quick to say so.

The onus is on you: you're the one who made the claim that "terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Still waiting for you to substantiate that claim.

well I looked thru all the terrorist attacks in recent years and they are all Islamic so... there you go. feel free to dispute it peccahead.

Provide your source.

(and stop telling lies)

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #113 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:58pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:30am:

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Stilll can't substantiate your claim, Longy?

Admit you lied.

it has been more than substantiated ...

Incorrect. Stop telling lies.

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic"

Can you substantiate that claim?

Quote:

.. if you had proof otherwise you would have been quick to say so.

The onus is on you: you're the one who made the claim that "terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Still waiting for you to substantiate that claim.

well I looked thru all the terrorist attacks in recent years and they are all Islamic so... there you go. feel free to dispute it peccahead.

BULLSHIT!

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #114 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 1:03pm

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:30am:

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Stilll can't substantiate your claim, Longy?

Admit you lied.

it has been more than substantiated ...

Incorrect. Stop telling lies.

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic"

Can you substantiate that claim?

Quote:

.. if you had proof otherwise you would have been quick to say so.

The onus is on you: you're the one who made the claim that "terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Still waiting for you to substantiate that claim.

well I looked thru all the terrorist attacks in recent years and they are all Islamic so... there you go. feel free to dispute it peccahead.

Bullshit!

Of course it's bullshit.

Everybody in the world knows it's bullshit, except Longy.

Longy is a compulsive liar, and he gets worse every day.

Watch him now: after making that ridiculous claim, he will say that he doesn't have to provide any proof whatsoever. He will try to argue that it is up to us to prove him wrong (and even when we do, he'll say that the source is incorrect - even if it's the FBI).

Longy has been coming unhinged for quite some time now, and it appears that he has finally cracked.

First, he hopes that forum members will be killed by terrorist attacks, and now he's just sprouting any sort of bullshit that comes to mind.

He's a real worry.

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #115 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 2:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 1:03pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:53am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:30am:

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Stilll can't substantiate your claim, Longy?

Admit you lied.

it has been more than substantiated ...

Incorrect. Stop telling lies.

"terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic"

Can you substantiate that claim?

Quote:

.. if you had proof otherwise you would have been quick to say so.

The onus is on you: you're the one who made the claim that "terrorism is in the modern world virtually entirely Islamic".

Still waiting for you to substantiate that claim.

well I looked thru all the terrorist attacks in recent years and they are all Islamic so... there you go. feel free to dispute it peccahead.

Bullshit!

Of course it's bullshit.

Everybody in the world knows it's bullshit, except Longy.

Longy is a compulsive liar, and he gets worse every day.

Watch him now: after making that ridiculous claim, he will say that he doesn't have to provide any proof whatsoever. He will try to argue that it is up to us to prove him wrong (and even when we do, he'll say that the source is incorrect - even if it's the FBI).

Longy has been coming unhinged for quite some time now, and it appears that he has finally cracked.

First, he hopes that forum members will be killed by terrorist attacks, and now he's just sprouting any sort of bullshit that comes to mind.

He's a real worry.

poor old peccahead. doesn't believe there is any Islamic threat...

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #116 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 3:00pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:57am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:43am:

It is undeniable that Islam is becoming more radical and some of its followers pose a risk to anyone who does not follow the teachings of the Koran.....To ignore the atrocities carried out in the name of Islam and draw parallels to other forms of terrorism is a straw man argument, of course some Muslims pose a risk to societies all over the world and to deny this is denying reality.....Islam is a misogynist religion where woman are denied equality and must conform to the will of men....Until Islam allows woman and non believers the right to equal freedom I am afraid we should not accept it is anything but an oppressive religion that does not practice tolerance and is not peaceful as many claim IMO!!!

Huh

Everyone ought to worship God according to his own inclinations, and not to be constrained by force.
Flavius Josephus (37 AD - 100 AD), Life

that's a good post phil, but you are an odd=bod to put it mildly. you write the above which is demonstrable true and yet tomorrow you will have an issue with Abbott and you will post nearly the exact opposite. When you arent bitching about Abbott you are a good poster but as soon as he comes into the picture your posts devolve rather rapidly.

but still a good post.

I condemn anything I believe to be against the greater good of society and do not make excuses for any Government.....I do not post to get approval from anyone I just state my opinion.....I am not surprised that seams odd to someone who is blinded by partisan ideology!!!

Roll Eyes

well it was only on the weekend you were posting how the threat doesn't exist... I M just confused by your opinions as they seem to vary according to the presence of an 'Abbott influence', But you at least are not pretending the raids were faked. that unfortunately, sets you apart.

I defended moderate Muslims right to practice Islam despite the reservations I have stated above.....although I might not agree with some aspects within any religion I respect the right of individuals to practice any belief they may have.....I never commented on the raids as this is a decision made by the AFP and I respect their judgement.....Why you would prefer I stuck to left wing values rather than stated the truth as I see it alludes me.....I believe in positive Liberal values that promote the individuals right to self determination with minimal interference from Government whilst maintaining social values that enables everyone to achieve a higher self of wellbeing???

Huh

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Re: Condemning Terrorism
Reply #117 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 3:09pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 12:45pm: