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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49963 At my desk.	Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Reply #15 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 5:59pm ISIS did say to deal with the hypocrits among them first, so I guess those mothers better watch their backs.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 43666	Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Reply #16 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:08pm freediver wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 5:59pm: ISIS did say to deal with the hypocrits among them first, so I guess those mothers better watch their backs. So, you admit that some Muslims are speaking out against and acting against extremism in their communities, FD? Or will you tap dance around again?
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 43666	Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Reply #17 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 10:47am "It is not Islam, it is not a state, it is not something that is supported within Muslims, let alone anyone in the Middle East for that matter," he said. Another Muslim speaking out against IS.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59844 Here Gender:	Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Reply #18 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:39am Quote: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Not true many of them seem to be complaining about the Abbott government.
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Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism?
Reply #19 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 5:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:08pm:

So, you admit that some Muslims are speaking out against and acting against extremism in their communities, FD?

According to FD its only the "wrong" type of extremism they oppose - or in other words, the extremism that damages the muslim's ultimate goal of overthrowing our freeeedom. He'll be able to offer the words of the universally condemned Anjem Choudary as the single piece of evidence to prove this. Plus Abu - of course.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #20 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 6:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

"It is not Islam, it is not a state, it is not something that is supported within Muslims, let alone anyone in the Middle East for that matter," he said. Another Muslim speaking out against IS.

So no-one in the middle east supports ISIS? Perhaps you should have a go at him for tarring them all with the same brush Brian.

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According to FD its only the "wrong" type of extremism they oppose - or in other words, the extremism that damages the muslim's ultimate goal of overthrowing our freeeedom. He'll be able to offer the words of the universally condemned Anjem Choudary as the single piece of evidence to prove this. Plus Abu - of course.

And of course the majority of Muslims in several large nations such as Malaysia. But let's not get hung up on the details eh?

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Reply #21 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 6:52pm

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 6:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

"It is not Islam, it is not a state, it is not something that is supported within Muslims, let alone anyone in the Middle East for that matter," he said. Another Muslim speaking out against IS.

So no-one in the middle east supports ISIS? Perhaps you should have a go at him for tarring them all with the same brush Brian.

That is his opinion, FD. I was more interested that he speaking out was refuting the apparently generally held opinion amongst you and your compatriots that no Muslims ever speak out. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 43666	Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Reply #22 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:02pm Line up for food at the Muslims Love Australia picnic day
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49963 At my desk.	Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Reply #23 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:02pm Oh I know the drill Brian. I must ignore the blatant falsehoods and misrepresentations and focus only on the message you wanted to read into it. I cannot expect you to find a quote from some random person on the internet supporting your view that is not also smeared with bullshit.
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Reply #24 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:03pm

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:02pm:

Oh I know the drill Brian. I must ignore the blatant falsehoods and misrepresentations and focus only on the message you wanted to read into it. I cannot expect you to find a quote from some random person on the internet supporting your view that is not also smeared with bullshit.

You mean like your "quotes" from that fellow "Abu"? Roll Eyes

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Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism?
Reply #25 - Sep 21^st, 2014 at 9:45am

freediver wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 6:43pm:

And of course the majority of Muslims in several large nations such as Malaysia. But let's not get hung up on the details eh?

Good point FD. The attitudes towards hudud law amongst a bare majority of Malaysian muslims is irrefutable proof that whenever Australian muslim leaders speak out against extremism in Australia - they are actually making the case for a 'smarter' more effective violent overthrow of our freeeedom.

Just as long as we don't mention Indonesia - a country with over 10 times the muslim population... lets not get hung up on the details eh?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49963 At my desk.	Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Reply #26 - Sep 21^st, 2014 at 12:06pm Indonesia has just allowed the introduction of Shariah law in some areas.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Reply #27 - Sep 21^st, 2014 at 7:54pm freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 12:06pm: Indonesia has just allowed the introduction of Shariah law in some areas. No they have not "just allowed" it in some areas. You're referring to Aceh - which has had shariah for over a decade.
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Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism?
Reply #28 - Sep 21^st, 2014 at 8:05pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 7:54pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 12:06pm:

Indonesia has just allowed the introduction of Shariah law in some areas.

No they have not "just allowed" it in some areas. You're referring to Aceh - which has had shariah for over a decade.

Did they try to bring back stoning to death for adultery in 2009?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49963 At my desk.	Re: So, no Muslims speak out against extremism? Reply #29 - Sep 21^st, 2014 at 8:07pm Who says you can't wind back civilisation?
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