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Re: Time The Rich Paid Their Huge Debt To Society
Reply #210 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:40pm

Kytro wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 7:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 10:56am:

you don't think laziness is a personal decision and choice? 'stupid' is also not merely intelligence but how it is applied. most stupid people I know are so because they refuse to learn and to take advice. that is a CHOICE as well.

Not in the way that people generally think about it. Nearly everything in life is driven from circumstance. This is a simple fact, your experiences and environment make you who you are, they drive all of your decisions be them good or bad. It's now a matter of how we use this knowledge.

Lots of people refuse to learn, or to take advice usually because they have competing interests. One reason people are lazy is because it was how they were brought up, or it's an aspect of personality. You can't use punishment as a motivator against beliefs or thinking effectively. Telling someone straight up "you are wrong" is likely only to harden their opposition. This leads to the inevitable hard-line stances against the to other position without caring what it actually is.

There are some people who are actually not able to work things out due to lack of mental capacity, but for most people this is a non issue. It's about what they know or do not, and what they have experience with.

There are some people that are just lazy, but more often it will be competing motivations and priorities in life. We should be far more concerned with how to make life better for more people than we should be with forcing people to fit our preconceived notations of what success is.

ah... fatalism, the KING of excuses.

your last sentence is pure folly. you want money? WORK. you want success? WORK. you want more and more? WORK HARDER. it is actually an incredibly simple concept.

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Re: Time The Rich Paid Their Huge Debt To Society
Reply #211 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 7:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:10pm:

Datalife wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:27pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 11:17am:

The rich are nothing without their unders to feed off. If it all went down tomorrow some people would survive but most wouldn't. Not many rich people would have the practical skills to make it. They should always be reminded of that. Without the system we have that works for them they are nothing.

If it all went down tomorrow the rich would be ahead of the game and already resourced. Not sure why you think rich people have no practical skills.

It's very true -

how many rich people could change a tap washer or a tire on their car?

most of the men and none of the women.

just like everybody else. do you think high-income earners pay someone to wipe their bum every morning?

high income earners, no ... but you think the likes of Clive or Hilton change their own washers?

do you think clive couldn't??? and that's the point. do you know many women who can change a tyre and a tap washer? I don't. a handful at best.

I don't know any wealthy people who can change a tap washer or a tire on their car.

They are all useless parasites.

I doubt you even KNOW any wealthy people. Im certain the low-rent crowd you move in would consider anyone 'rich' if they owned a car with all the panels the same colour. you make some really stupid claims.

Nonsense - in my last job I was always the one changing the tap washers
as everyone else was useless.

The higher they were paid the more useless they were.

because you were the DISH-WASHER. it was your job.

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Re: Time The Rich Paid Their Huge Debt To Society
Reply #212 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 9:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:38pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 7:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 6:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 3:10pm:

Datalife wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 2:27pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 11:17am:

The rich are nothing without their unders to feed off. If it all went down tomorrow some people would survive but most wouldn't. Not many rich people would have the practical skills to make it. They should always be reminded of that. Without the system we have that works for them they are nothing.

If it all went down tomorrow the rich would be ahead of the game and already resourced. Not sure why you think rich people have no practical skills.

It's very true -

how many rich people could change a tap washer or a tire on their car?

most of the men and none of the women.

just like everybody else. do you think high-income earners pay someone to wipe their bum every morning?

high income earners, no ... but you think the likes of Clive or Hilton change their own washers?

do you think clive couldn't??? and that's the point. do you know many women who can change a tyre and a tap washer? I don't. a handful at best.

actually, I know quite a few ... and I doubt Clive could change his underwear without help, let alone his tap washers

clive is SELF-MADE billionaire so I would say he has don't a whole lot of manual work. in fact, the notion that he hasn't is ridiculous.

Clive didn't make his millions doing manual labor ... I doubt he even knows what it is.

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Re: Time The Rich Paid Their Huge Debt To Society
Reply #213 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 9:05pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:40pm: