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The new 'Climate Deniers'
Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am
 
As the Anthropogenic Climate Change debate gets ever more heated and desperate it is worth perhaps commenting on the oft-used derogatory term ‘Climate Denier’ and its place in the global discussion. Commonly used to describe people who refuse to accept the scientific community’s belief that climate change is human driven and heading for disaster, this label is about to be turned on its head and come home to roost on the vitriolic heads of those who have thrown it around so carelessly.

As the years have gone by, the climate has steadfastly refused to toe the IPCC line of imminent disaster and has instead done what it has always done - normal climatic conditions interspersed with regular droughts, floods and storms. In other words, a normal day on planet earth.

One of the most telling events in this debate occurred in 2012 when a newspaper journalist reported that the UK METs data revealed that there had been ‘no statistically significant increase in temperature for 16 years’.  He provided a graph based on their own data and probably had good reason to think he had discovered something important.  What he didn’t realise is that he had actually discovered who real Climate Deniers are. The MET responded furiously, disputing his claim and saying that the earth was continuing to warm and there was no pause, despite their own data saying the exact opposite. This went on for about a year before the MET quietly accepted the indisputable truth of their own data and started putting articles online that ‘explained the pause’.  But the damage was already done. People were already seeing that supposedly intelligent scientists were following an agenda and not the science. The climate was saying one thing, but they were saying another.  They were in essence, Climate Deniers - the very term they had used so disparagingly for years.

And so as the earth refuses to warm and the shreaking cries of those defying the observations of a thoroughly disinterested natural climate grow louder and sillier, the term Climate Denier has found a new home, on the heads of ACC evangelists everywhere.

Climate Denier: a person who refuses to accept what the natural climate is doing and instead presumes a hidden agenda based on faulty data and preconceived beliefs. Also known as a religion.
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Reply #1 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am
 
enjoy...  Grin Grin Grin
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AKA...apostles of the climate church (Eco-socialists)
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Reply #3 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:02am
 
Have you got any evidence to back up your opinion?
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Reply #4 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:04am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am:
The MET responded furiously, disputing his claim and saying that the earth was continuing to warm and there was no pause


Source please.
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Reply #5 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:06am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:04am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am:
The MET responded furiously, disputing his claim and saying that the earth was continuing to warm and there was no pause


Source please.


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Reply #6 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:42am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am:
As the Anthropogenic Climate Change debate gets ever more heated and desperate it is worth perhaps commenting on the oft-used derogatory term ‘Climate Denier’ and its place in the global discussion. Commonly used to describe people who refuse to accept the scientific community’s belief that climate change is human driven and heading for disaster, this label is about to be turned on its head and come home to roost on the vitriolic heads of those who have thrown it around so carelessly.

As the years have gone by, the climate has steadfastly refused to toe the IPCC line of imminent disaster and has instead done what it has always done - normal climatic conditions interspersed with regular droughts, floods and storms. In other words, a normal day on planet earth.

One of the most telling events in this debate occurred in 2012 when a newspaper journalist reported that the UK METs data revealed that there had been ‘no statistically significant increase in temperature for 16 years’.  He provided a graph based on their own data and probably had good reason to think he had discovered something important.  What he didn’t realise is that he had actually discovered who real Climate Deniers are. The MET responded furiously, disputing his claim and saying that the earth was continuing to warm and there was no pause, despite their own data saying the exact opposite. This went on for about a year before the MET quietly accepted the indisputable truth of their own data and started putting articles online that ‘explained the pause’.  But the damage was already done. People were already seeing that supposedly intelligent scientists were following an agenda and not the science. The climate was saying one thing, but they were saying another.  They were in essence, Climate Deniers - the very term they had used so disparagingly for years.

And so as the earth refuses to warm and the shreaking cries of those defying the observations of a thoroughly disinterested natural climate grow louder and sillier, the term Climate Denier has found a new home, on the heads of ACC evangelists everywhere.

Climate Denier: a person who refuses to accept what the natural climate is doing and instead presumes a hidden agenda based on faulty data and preconceived beliefs. Also known as a religion.

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Reply #7 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:46am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:04am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am:
The MET responded furiously, disputing his claim and saying that the earth was continuing to warm and there was no pause


Source please.



go to their website and look for the articles on  'explaining the pause'
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Reply #8 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:59am
 
Bam wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:42am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am:
As the Anthropogenic Climate Change debate gets ever more heated and desperate it is worth perhaps commenting on the oft-used derogatory term ‘Climate Denier’ and its place in the global discussion. Commonly used to describe people who refuse to accept the scientific community’s belief that climate change is human driven and heading for disaster, this label is about to be turned on its head and come home to roost on the vitriolic heads of those who have thrown it around so carelessly.

As the years have gone by, the climate has steadfastly refused to toe the IPCC line of imminent disaster and has instead done what it has always done - normal climatic conditions interspersed with regular droughts, floods and storms. In other words, a normal day on planet earth.

One of the most telling events in this debate occurred in 2012 when a newspaper journalist reported that the UK METs data revealed that there had been ‘no statistically significant increase in temperature for 16 years’.  He provided a graph based on their own data and probably had good reason to think he had discovered something important.  What he didn’t realise is that he had actually discovered who real Climate Deniers are. The MET responded furiously, disputing his claim and saying that the earth was continuing to warm and there was no pause, despite their own data saying the exact opposite. This went on for about a year before the MET quietly accepted the indisputable truth of their own data and started putting articles online that ‘explained the pause’.  But the damage was already done. People were already seeing that supposedly intelligent scientists were following an agenda and not the science. The climate was saying one thing, but they were saying another.  They were in essence, Climate Deniers - the very term they had used so disparagingly for years.

And so as the earth refuses to warm and the shreaking cries of those defying the observations of a thoroughly disinterested natural climate grow louder and sillier, the term Climate Denier has found a new home, on the heads of ACC evangelists everywhere.

Climate Denier: a person who refuses to accept what the natural climate is doing and instead presumes a hidden agenda based on faulty data and preconceived beliefs. Also known as a religion.

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it might be a more impressive argument if u actually debated the points
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Reply #9 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:06pm
 
What did CSIRO say recently? Was it 99.99% certainty ?  Continue to be the 0.01% longie Grin

How's jebus going? I'm sure he can ask Noah to build us a new ark as a solution to climate change Grin
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Reply #10 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:10pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:04am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am:
The MET responded furiously, disputing his claim and saying that the earth was continuing to warm and there was no pause


Source please.

A newspaper hack, because in longliars eyes hacks know more than scientists.
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Reply #11 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:31pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:06pm:
What did CSIRO say recently? Was it 99.99% certainty ?  Continue to be the 0.01% longie Grin

How's jebus going? I'm sure he can ask Noah to build us a new ark as a solution to climate change Grin



and what a joke that was!!    you cant be 99.999% sure the moon landings happened because in that 1 in 100,000 chance exists the possibility it was all faked.  now, no body with a brain believes it was faked as the evidence is overwhelming.  but to grant that level of certainty to climate change where the evidence is almost non-existant is an indication of just how desperate they are to generate belief in the absence of actual facts.
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Reply #12 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:31pm
 
skippy. wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:10pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 11:04am:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am:
The MET responded furiously, disputing his claim and saying that the earth was continuing to warm and there was no pause


Source please.

A newspaper hack, because in longliars eyes hacks know more than scientists.


MET website boofhead.
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Reply #13 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:45pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:31pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:06pm:
What did CSIRO say recently? Was it 99.99% certainty ?  Continue to be the 0.01% longie Grin

How's jebus going? I'm sure he can ask Noah to build us a new ark as a solution to climate change Grin



and what a joke that was!!    you cant be 99.999% sure the moon landings happened because in that 1 in 100,000 chance exists the possibility it was all faked.  now, no body with a brain believes it was faked as the evidence is overwhelming.  but to grant that level of certainty to climate change where the evidence is almost non-existant is an indication of just how desperate they are to generate belief in the absence of actual facts.

evidence is almost non existent you say? Grin  Amazing how you refuse to accept any evidence of climate change and claim that all scientists are in some massive conspiracy theory, including the CSIRO, but when it comes to Jebus you're completely convinced.  That tells enough to discredit you entirely.
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Reply #14 - Sep 10th, 2014 at 12:46pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am:
enjoy...  Grin Grin Grin






longweekend58 wrote on Sep 10th, 2014 at 9:27am:
peer reviewed, by buzzanddidj


The MET responded furiously factually, disputing his claim and saying that the earth was continuing to warm and there was no absolute, grinding halt - but a "relative pause" ( ... or "relative flattening"), on the warming rate increase of prior decades *

Even WITH this "pause" in the rate of increase - the decade 2001-2010 still surpassed the decade 1991-2000 as the warmest decade global average temperature in recorded history




Quote:
In conclusion, the recent pause in global surface temperature rise does not invalidate climate models or their estimates of climate sensitivity. It does however raise some important questions about how well we understand and observe the energy budget of the climate system, particularly the important role of the oceans in taking up and redistributing heat, as highlighted in the second report

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/q/0/Paper2_recent_pause_in_global_warming....


In particular, this report emphasises that the recent pause in
global surface warming does not, in itself, materially alter the risks of substantial warming of the Earth by the end of this century

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/3/r/Paper3_Implications_for_projections.pd...





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