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Re: The game is over for Bill Shorten
Reply #30 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:11pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Armpit, -19%!!!!!!!!!! Do you think he'll survive? -19%!!!

If the numbers don't improve dramatically, Hockey or Turnbull, I wouldn't even put it past Pyne with his ego, will take a shot at the top job about a year out from the election ....

theyll need Tony to step down, claiming "family reasons"

if Tony doesn't play along they'll hand ICAC some evidnece of Abbotts involvement with Slipper or some other scandal and force him out that way

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Reply #31 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:12pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:03pm:

If Abbott tried to announce RET would go he would be replaced this month. -19% PMs do not have the political capital and authority to make big policy announcements before Cabinet has decided. I reckon he might be gone as early as this year, last sitting week is my prediction.

Hokey won’t have a chance, Turnbull may or WA cleanskin Porter—he has been there 1 year and is supposed to be a boy wonder. I really can’t think of anyone else.

The problem for them has always been that he has never enjoyed personal political support. So when they did their whole budget full of lies their party support plummeted even more, and any political capital they ever had as a group evaporated immediately. The only way to regain it is to change leader.

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Re: The game is over for Bill Shorten
Reply #32 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:13pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:11pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Armpit, -19%!!!!!!!!!! Do you think he'll survive? -19%!!!

If the numbers don't improve dramatically, Hockey or Turnbull, I wouldn't even put it past Pyne with his ego, will take a shot at the top job about a year out from the election ....

theyll need Tony to step down, claiming "family reasons"

if Tony doesn't play along they'll hand ICAC some evidnece of Abbotts involvement with Slipper or some other scandal and force him out that way

Hmmm yes that's true - we already know he has a predisposition to rorting the public purse.

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Re: The game is over for Bill Shorten
Reply #33 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:53pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Armpit, -19%!!!!!!!!!! Do you think he'll survive? -19%!!!

If the numbers don't improve dramatically, Hockey or Turnbull, I wouldn't even put it past Pyne with his ego, will take a shot at the top job about a year out from the election ....

I don't think they will. More likely, they will lash Abbott to the bowsprit and let him lead the Coalition ship to its doom.

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Re: The game is over for Bill Shorten
Reply #34 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 2:08pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:12pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:03pm:

If Abbott tried to announce RET would go he would be replaced this month. -19% PMs do not have the political capital and authority to make big policy announcements before Cabinet has decided. I reckon he might be gone as early as this year, last sitting week is my prediction.

Hokey won’t have a chance, Turnbull may or WA cleanskin Porter—he has been there 1 year and is supposed to be a boy wonder. I really can’t think of anyone else.

The problem for them has always been that he has never enjoyed personal political support. So when they did their whole budget full of lies their party support plummeted even more, and any political capital they ever had as a group evaporated immediately. The only way to regain it is to change leader.

They need to change their policies too, more so as there is no one with charisma or intelligence anywhere in their front and back benches. That will make the change of Leader look like childs play. Roll Eyes

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Reply #35 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 8:04pm

Tony Abbott has one big problem he will never be able to overcome.....No one will ever believe anything he says again after breaking so many promises in his first budget.....Anything Abbott says before the next election will be viewed with scepticism and mistrust.....Abbott lied his way into office and anything he says now will not be believed.....After making truth and trust a platform for his last election campaign Abbott has shown he just cannot be trusted ever again.....Abbott has sewn the seeds of his own defeat!!!

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62347 Here Gender:	Re: The game is over for Bill Shorten Reply #37 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:39pm Quote: In fact, Shorten has been so manic about saying no, to make the Government seem dysfunctional Tnoy Abbnott: Abbott was still saying no right up to the day the election was called and it seemed to work for him ?
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Reply #38 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 10:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 12:48pm:

Armpit, -19%!!!!!!!!!! Do you think he'll survive? -19%!!!

If the numbers don't improve dramatically, Hockey or Turnbull, I wouldn't even put it past Pyne with his ego, will take a shot at the top job about a year out from the election ....

Don't say such a thing!

The thought of the poodle as PM makes the woman-basher look almost good. Almost.

Imagine Pyne in speedos? Huh

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Re: The game is over for Bill Shorten
Reply #39 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 10:37pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 8:04pm:

Tony Abbott has one big problem he will never be able to overcome.....No one will ever believe anything he says again after breaking so many promises in his first budget.....Anything Abbott says before the next election will be viewed with scepticism and mistrust.....Abbott lied his way into office and anything he says now will not be believed.....After making truth and trust a platform for his last election campaign Abbott has shown he just cannot be trusted ever again.....Abbott has sewn the seeds of his own defeat!!!

Ambition drove many men to become false; to have one thought locked in the breast, another ready on the tongue.
Sallust (86 BC - 34 BC), The War with Catiline

Everyone with half a brain cell knows he will try and pull the old work failure that had Howard lose his vey own seat, Tony is doomed come next election. Howard pulled it off with charisma and steely faced bs, Abbott is as transparent as glad wrap, dumb as ds clueless failure.

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Re: The game is over for Bill Shorten
Reply #40 - Sep 10^th, 2014 at 6:56am

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 2:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:12pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 1:03pm:

If Abbott tried to announce RET would go he would be replaced this month. -19% PMs do not have the political capital and authority to make big policy announcements before Cabinet has decided. I reckon he might be gone as early as this year, last sitting week is my prediction.

Hokey won’t have a chance, Turnbull may or WA cleanskin Porter—he has been there 1 year and is supposed to be a boy wonder. I really can’t think of anyone else.

The problem for them has always been that he has never enjoyed personal political support. So when they did their whole budget full of lies their party support plummeted even more, and any political capital they ever had as a group evaporated immediately. The only way to regain it is to change leader.

They need to change their policies too, more so as there is no one with charisma or intelligence anywhere in their front and back benches. That will make the change of Leader look like childs play. Roll Eyes

What about Morrison? He's been highly successful in his portfolio, as has Bishop as Foreign Minister.

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Reply #41 - Sep 10^th, 2014 at 7:37am

While Abbott keeps rolling out the lies anyone will be able to give him a flogging at the next election.
After the superannuation debacle Clive will lose his seat while Bob Day and most of the PUP Senators will only last one Senate term.
This swing to a lying deceptive far right regime will be an apparition and it will be many decades before we see the likes of it again.

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