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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62425 Here Gender:	Re: Pyne Corruption Allegation Reply #45 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:19pm Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:47am: I wouldnt take too much notice of anything Ashby says, he has a bit of form as a dodgy. http://www.news.com.au/national/peter-slipper-accuser-james-ashby-convicted-over... Yep maybe there were no good guys involved at all. Ashby, Slipper, Brough, Pyne, Abbott etc.
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Reply #46 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:24pm

Can't see this one going anywhere. They very rarely do.

I was listening to the god botherer show on ABC last night and someone was saying that in regard to corruption with the Labor party, it's usually about personal gain, but corruption within the Liberal party is usually about them acting like the rules and laws don't apply to them - but for the advancement of their political cause - not personal gain.

Seems to be kind of true.

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Reply #47 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:29pm

cods wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:08am:

there was nothing new.

I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?..

his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience...

how gullible can you get?

That's right, dear. James Ashby was being taken for a ride all the way to a safe seat in state government.

The ALP reward trusted union officials with such prizes. The Libs, it seems, reward those who do its dirty work. Who knows? Maybe Pyne got his seat the same way. Maybe even Mr Abbott himself.

It does make you wonder what the lovechild of John Howard and Bronwyn Bishop had on John Howard.

Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.

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Enquiring mind Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105024	Re: Pyne Corruption Allegation Reply #48 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:33pm progressiveslol wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:08am: Well wasn't this a nothing story. 60 minutes more like ACA That's right, Progressives. A senior Lib bribing a staffer to "out" the Speaker of the House in return for Liberal preselection is hardly news. Happens all the time.
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Reply #49 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:44pm

Well, these kind of things does happen in politics, it is a ruthless world. The man was promised free legal representation and a job, and at the end he had none, and everyone assumed that he was acting under direction anyway. So his reputation is ruined, no other employers would want to touch him within a mile. Of course, he is going to come back and bite as he can. But, what he does only served to confuse the situation, with little benefit to him, and even less effect on current sitting member of the government as these 'allegations' can never be proven.

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It would be nice to know who put the pressure on Ashby to drop the court case.

If you are taking someone to court the last thing you worry about is their mentally health.

I don't think it would be the lawyers that told Ashby to drop the case as they would like a verdict in their favour to get the cost back that they already spent on the first court case and the appeal. So who else would like the court case to be drop and why?

I agree that he dropped the court case, and its certainly not out of worry about Slipper's mental health, since he did not worry about it when he first lodge the case.

But, I do believe, that its his lawyers - said to be acting on behalf of some individual / party advised him to drop the case probably because they would not get paid if they continue on with it.

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Reply #51 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:12pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 11:12am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

you want a contract to undermine and remove a democratically elected govt. by underhanded means? This is the real world Í am talking about, these back room deals don't involve contracts ...

And they're called 'backroom deals' because...?

you asked for the contract, not me

John Smith wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 10:26am:

I've not doubt anybodies intentions were less than honourable, nevertheless, they made him a promise and in typical lib fashion, broke the promise

And you know they made a deal because...?

I don't know anything, I'm merely commenting on the allegations

I guess Ashby needs to ask himself, if he wants to play with the big boys at the high table, does he really have a few big chips to bring into the game?

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Pyne Corruption Allegation Reply #52 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:21pm After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China. Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it. This has legs. Also, in TURC, emails between Peta & a developer had a suppression order lifted—ICAC is now in Abbott’s office!
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Reply #53 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 8:26am

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China.

Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it.

This has legs.

Also, in TURC, emails between Peta & a developer had a suppression order lifted—ICAC is now in Abbott’s office!

No, it really doesn't - and neither do you.

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Reply #54 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:08am

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

Pyne slipped up (pardon the pun) in his press conference when he stated "If Julia Gillard had not sacked Harry Jenkins and made Peter Slipper speaker these allegations would never have surfaced".....So Pyne has confirmed it was about getting Slipper and not the sexual harassment claims!!!

Smiley

no slipper would never have offered ashby a $160.000 job just so he could have his hot little feller to hand so to speak...

guess who promoted slipper to the second best paid job in the land..guess who... Roll Eyes

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Reply #55 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:13am

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:08am:

Well wasn't this a nothing story.

60 minutes more like ACA

That's right, Progressives. A senior Lib bribing a staffer to "out" the Speaker of the House in return for Liberal preselection is hardly news.

Happens all the time.

Those two reason you give are precisely why it should always be news.....

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Reply #56 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:19am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 8:26am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China.

Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it.

This has legs.

Also, in TURC, emails between Peta & a developer had a suppression order lifted—ICAC is now in Abbott’s office!

No, it really doesn't - and neither do you.

Yes - we've got on hell of a lot to learn from the education systems in Laos and China...

"Numbah One children strong courage patriots now repeat in democratic unison heavenly learning for today as way forward in comradely future of five year learning plan! Tomorrow self criticism and spiritual cleansing and purification of thought and acceptance ways of decadent West and learning capital roading in socialist brotherhood!"

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Reply #57 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:29am

cods wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:08am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

Pyne slipped up (pardon the pun) in his press conference when he stated "If Julia Gillard had not sacked Harry Jenkins and made Peter Slipper speaker these allegations would never have surfaced".....So Pyne has confirmed it was about getting Slipper and not the sexual harassment claims!!!

Smiley

no slipper would never have offered ashby a $160.000 job just so he could have his hot little feller to hand so to speak...

guess who promoted slipper to the second best paid job in the land..guess who... Roll Eyes

Guess who knew all about and covered up for Slippers miss adventures for well over a decade previously and just kept on pre selecting him for office as a liberal minister with their full support - time after time after time ?

The Libs had made Slipper :

Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister (John Howard) and government whip.

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Reply #58 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:41am

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China.

Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it.

Well, well... Did Ashby secretly record the conversation... Or does Pyne suspect he may have?

Not that Ashby could use it legally... But, if he has, it would sure put the shivers up the recorded party.

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Reply #59 - Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:51am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 9^th, 2014 at 9:41am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

After a torrid presser Cwissy Payne flew off for “urgent appointments” in Laos and China.

Abbott desperately trying to draw a line under it.

Well, well... Did Ashby secretly record the conversation... Or does Pyne suspect he may have?

Not that Ashby could use it legally... But, if he has, it would sure put the shivers up the recorded party.

legality is irrelevant ... if Ashby had a recording Pyne would be finished in politics. The only one to still vote for him would be Cods, longy and armpit

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