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Pyne Corruption Allegation
Sep 8^th, 2014 at 12:27am

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Here's What We Learnt From The 60 Minutes Interview With 'Slippergate' Whistleblower James Ashby

...Ashby claims Christopher Pyne, then in opposition and now education minister, promised to organise a lawyer and job in state politics for him after he raised the harassment claims...

businessinsider.com.au/heres-what-we-learnt-from-the-60-minutes-interview-with-s
lippergate-whistleblower-james-ashby-2014-9

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Pyne Corruption Allegation Reply #1 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:08am there was nothing new. I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?.. his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience... how gullible can you get?
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Pyne Corruption Allegation Reply #2 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:09am ps.. I am glad you learnt something..
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Reply #3 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 3:53am

We knew Pyne was corrupt Cods, but we did not know the seriousness of it until this whistleblower has come forward:

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...Federal Education Minister Christopher Pyne allegedly offered to help find former speaker's aide James Ashby a lawyer and a job if he made a claim of sexual harassment against speaker of the House of Representatives Peter Slipper...

...Journalist Liz Hayes: "You'd been, according to you, assured by Christopher Pyne that you would have a job and you would have a solicitor who would be paid for."

James Ashby: "That's right …

smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/christopher-pyne-allegedly-offered-to
-help-find-james-ashby-a-lawyer-and-a-job-20140907-10dor0.html

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Pyne Corruption Allegation Reply #4 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 4:54am Nothing up on the australian newspaper website on this ... looks like they are in deep denial. As are some hard right posters !
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Reply #5 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:10am

Pyne is an ugly little man who used a fool to help bring down the government. Ashby deserves what he got and would have known exactly what Pyne and Brough wanted from him.

I doubt anyone will believe Pyne's denial, but then what he did isn't a hanging offence, but just dirty tactics. We know that the Coalition will stop at nothing to get what they want even if it means destroying people in the process.

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Reply #6 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:12am

mantra wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:10am:

Pyne is an ugly little man who used a fool to help bring down the government. Ashby deserves what he got and would have known exactly what Pyne and Brough wanted from him.

I doubt anyone will believe Pyne's denial, but then what he did isn't a hanging offence, but just dirty tactics. We know that the Coalition will stop at nothing to get what they want even if it means destroying people in the process.

Gillard's sacking of Harry Jenkins as Speaker and installing of Slipper to shore up her shaky numbers wasn't a "dirty tactic"?

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Reply #7 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:18am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:12am:

Gillard's sacking of Harry Jenkins as Speaker and installing of Slipper to shore up her shaky numbers wasn't a "dirty tactic"?

Any government would have done the same under the circumstances. The tactics would have seemed dirty to the opposition at the time, but then they resorted to even dirtier tactics to get rid of Slipper. They destroyed him.

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Reply #8 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:56am

Not defending Pyne but what's the evidence?

The complainant made (apparently) timely notes of a meeting with Pyne. Pyne, no doubt, made none.

Senior politicians don't get to where they are and stay there by making questionable promises that can be proved by a disgruntled complainant.

So, if you believe Ashby its because you want to believe him, not because the evidence supports his claim.

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Reply #10 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:28am

mantra wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:10am:

We know that the Coalition will stop at nothing to get what they want even if it means destroying people in the process.

All governments and their components (within the administrative and executive) go to great lengths to achieve their aims while minimizing political risk and legal liability.

What you could say is that 60 Minutes stopped at nothing to get what they want even if it meant destroying naive and vulnerable people in the process.

Was Ashby paid for the story?

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Pyne Corruption Allegation Reply #11 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:33am Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 3:53am: We knew Pyne was corrupt Cods You do realise that making that allegation is defamatory if untrue? The onus is yours to prove your allegation.
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Reply #12 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:50am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:28am:

mantra wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 6:10am:

We know that the Coalition will stop at nothing to get what they want even if it means destroying people in the process.

All governments and their components (within the administrative and executive) go to great lengths to achieve their aims while minimizing political risk and legal liability.

What you could say is that 60 Minutes stopped at nothing to get what they want even if it meant destroying naive and vulnerable people in the process.

Was Ashby paid for the story?

He would have been paid by 60 minutes. Ashby obviously loves the attention. If he really was as suicidal as he claims - he wouldn't be trying to keep the story alive.

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Re: Pyne Corruption Allegation
Reply #13 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:53am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:33am:

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 3:53am:

We knew Pyne was corrupt Cods

You do realise that making that allegation is defamatory if untrue? The onus is yours to prove your allegation.

In that case Pynie could always sue at huge cost and recover nothing.... but would he really want the publicity?

Time for a total review of 'defamation' etc "laws".

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Re: Pyne Corruption Allegation
Reply #14 - Sep 8^th, 2014 at 7:58am

cods wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 1:08am:

there was nothing new.

I feel for the young man I really do...the left will do its best to get mileage out of it.. but really what was NEW?..

his mum and dad knew he was being used or taken for a ride...$160.000 a year with no experience...

how gullible can you get?

nothing new? weren't you one of the ones claiming it wasn't a case of the libs trying to bring down Gillard?

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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