From the mouths of babes.
It's mans only hope of being heard.

Amadd wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 3:04pm:


The new generation of males coming through have a handle on this, this isn't a big deal to them and they see the inequity. I believe the pendulum will swing back somewhat..I hear murmurings ( daughter ) that she loved the dynamic/chemistry between men and women " back in the day..". Women were allowed to be women, without apology ..in that time men and women appreciated each other.

mantra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 2:59pm:


English Grammar schools (do they still exist?) had much brighter boys than Private Boarding schools ... but that's debatable. The Private Boarding schools had kids with good genes from smart and wealthy parents, but the Grammar schools had kids who were tested and proved to be the brightest in the land even though their parents were anything from labourers to bus drivers.

mantra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 2:59pm:


Unfortunately, yes. Undoubtedly one of the most depressing serial documentaries ever put to air. I fink the London cockney taxi driver probably came out the best.

mantra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 2:59pm:


I went to a Secondary Modern school for a year or so. The difference between that and the private school was that at the government school you feared the kids in the playground each day, and at the private school you feared the 'masters' in the classrooms. 

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 8:17pm:


There are still a few in existence, but I've gotten a little confused over how the English schools are tagged. I thought all the Grammar schools were independent, but they're not. The publicly supported grammar schools can be likened to our selective schools here.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 8:17pm:


He at least appeared to be the most well balanced out of his peers who came from the wrong side of the track. On the other hand, those who went to private (I know they're called public over there) schools appeared to have made a success of their lives - at least publicly.

The class system possibly held the less refined children back during that era, whereas here - by 1970, class distinction was being eradicated; that is until Howard tried to revive it two decades later.

Amadd wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:53pm:


Yeah, sure, me too. Many years.

Of course, that said, you made no real point there did you, so no argument from me. In fact, I support your right to disagree, even without articulating any specific point...

Thanks for the back handed compliment too, about making it "sound half intelligent", sorry for any offense, but, from your comment, that same compliment would not be applicable...

I merely point out that paying more attention to the behaviour is not a bad idea, that was my point... You disagree with that, curious...

Throughout history men have always tried to enslave other men in order to gain/buy women for themselves. That is no different today, just the way to do it has changed over time... The whole "feminism movement" is based on that male motivation. Feminism was NOT a women's movement. It was a cunning idea by powerful men who wanted even more power for themselves....

What's happening in this thread?  It's bizarre.  Sounds as if everyone's having a vent about some isolated, personal issue and transferring that to 'men' and 'women' as their angst dictates

Women squatting on grass?  Seen as 'territorial' -- then 'no, it's men who're territorial '

Women do this -- then 180 switch and it's men do it too, etc.

I was in a class one day.  The 'unusual' person had long been the one who spoke loudly and made outrageous comments and wore a selection of wide-banded chokers around her neck.  She was the one who'd announced loudly that her breasts had needed to be imported from the US because in Australia we don't have such large prostheses

One day, heading downstairs on lunch break, she bared her massive breasts before a tiny young guy whom she'd held transfixed for weeks.  He gulped and took off.  The exhibitionist roared with laughter, looked around for a response.  I remarked each of her breasts was larger than the poor kid's head.  More roaring laughter

It was around then that we finally worked out she was transgender (that we were all 'slow' had obviously been long apparent to that character)

Then one day, from three rows behind, I heard her refer to female genitalia in the most vile, demeaning manner that I swung around and said just as loudly that her remark was straight from the women-hating, misogynist's textbook.  The fact my daughter was in the same class probably spurred me to object

Loud-mouth's best buddy - a part time prostitute who invariably sat alongside her -- agreed

The transgender blushed. It was clear she realised she'd made a massive faux pas.  In order to qualify for her sex-change procedures and register (in the course and elsewhere) as a woman, she'd had to live as a woman and claim to 'feel like' a woman for a minimum of twelve months, or similar.  She'd just blown it.  She was a quick learner and I knew she'd remember not to do it again, or if it slipped out, it would be rarely

We remained friends.  Impossible not to like and admire her for the sheer size and courage of her personality.  But, she punched out a female motorist during a road-rage incident and boasted about it -- full punch apparently, square in the face, delivered by what had been a man's muscles and shoulder rotation

She wasn't a woman at all, imo.  She was a gay guy with false tits which gave her the edge over the competition when it came to getting straight guys into bed

That individual, although hilarious much of the time, was the most bitchy individual I've encountered.  Some of the runners up have been what claimed to be red-blooded, heterosexual males

Comments are verbal spears and some people - male and female -- are particularly adept at wounding through the bone

Men who've grown up with sisters usually know what hurts a woman.  Many gay guys pride themselves on their bitchy put-downs re: females.  Maybe they just hate the competition for being what they can never truly be.  And some heterosexual women can destroy

If one woman enrages or irritates another female, there's likely to be blood, same between men and as we know, between the sexes

Do all men play by Queensbury rules in their dealings with other men?  Do they?

So why does this thread point the finger at women who're equally ruthless with regard to other women?

PZ547 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2014 at 3:11pm:

well, perhaps all threads should be the same?



Hey, freediver: can we call all threads 'vanilla' and put them all in the one subforum? Thanx