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Females who denigrate their own gender sexually
Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:10am

We seem to accept that males occasionally put a woman down sexually - unpleasant as it is, but might put it down to testosterone overload, low self esteem, no self control or a mind obsessed with sex.

We expect a different mindset from a woman, but when a female inflicts verbal sexual assaults on other females - what do we make of her? Is she so insecure that when she sexually denigrates another female, she feels superior simply because she believes people will perceive her as being more physically attractive? Or does she enjoy the same being said to her by a male? Could it be insecurity about her own sexuality? Maybe it is just transference of the abuse which males have inflicted on her?

I tried to find something on the net about females who do this to other women, but there's nothing. It's all about males and females sexually denigrating the opposite sex. We can only come to the conclusion that it is abnormal behaviour. Is it tolerated simply because there is no precedent to follow?

This has been amended to add the female perpetrator.

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Jokes and banter that are fueled by sexism and misogyny are not clever, edgy or provocative. They're aimed, typically at reinforcing a sense of male/female superiority and entitlement. Far from being 'a bit of harmless fun', they fuel unhealthy attitudes that have a real-life negative impact on countless women/men and girls/boys.

Secure men/women have no need or desire to sexually denigrate women/men. They respect themselves; they respect women/men.

http://www.stopdemand.org/wawcs0154998/sexual-denigration.html

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Females who denigrate their own gender sexually Reply #1 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:24am women are bitchy mantra no other word for it... they can also use the worst language when it comes to their own sex.....pretty sad really...a bad mouth not a good look.. .dont go there when I see or read women behaving badly I cringe and walk away.
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Reply #2 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:39am

cods wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:24am:

women are bitchy mantra no other word for it...

True.

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they can also use the worst language when it comes to their own sex.....pretty sad really...a bad mouth not a good look.. .dont go there when I see or read women behaving badly I cringe and walk away.

It's not just the language Cods. Women can swear like troopers and be harmless and funny about it, but when it becomes sexualised and targeted, a line is crossed. In reality, as it is online, it's a threat.

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Reply #3 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:44am

The one thing I disliked about Juliar Gillard was that she seemed a 'poor example' of a Female Political Leader.
I like the idea of a Female Prime Minister, but Gillard seemed to have ruined it.
The way she attained the position was a very negative approach.
The way she accused every and any male that didn't agree with her as a misogynist and sexist.

There are better examples of women who are capable of leading this nation. I like Kate Ellis for one, who seems capable of out-arguing her opponent rather than accuse and insult and that includes 'female' opposition.

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Reply #4 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:00am

Jasin wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:44am:

The one thing I disliked about Juliar Gillard was that she seemed a 'poor example' of a Female Political Leader.
I like the idea of a Female Prime Minister, but Gillard seemed to have ruined it.
The way she attained the position was a very negative approach.
The way she accused every and any male that didn't agree with her as a misogynist and sexist.

There are better examples of women who are capable of leading this nation. I like Kate Ellis for one, who seems capable of out-arguing her opponent rather than accuse and insult and that includes 'female' opposition.

I havent seen much in that dept with female pollies....the silly women Lambie aside...

this is about females lambasting other females...

sadly even in writing the bitchy side of females cant be covered up... its glaring in some cases.

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Reply #5 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 5:51pm

Females have testosterone running through their bodies, but it isn't entirely hormonal.
Females will use any means possible to put down another, in all aspects of life you have the dominant and the submissive, and you can get a lot of territorial women who like to squat down and mark their territory.
It isn't really a case of sexism, it's a case of personal discrimination used in any means possible.

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The Mole Gold Member Offline http://www.ozpolitic .co/album/forum-atta chments/y Posts: 1499 Gender:	Re: Females who denigrate their own gender sexually Reply #6 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:27pm It's a cut throat world out there..and the bitch in every women is sitting just below the surface. Mind you some men could give the girls a run for their money.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Females who denigrate their own gender sexually Reply #7 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:38pm Thank God I don't see too many females squatting down and marking their territory on my front lawn. Those little burn patches wouldn't recover for at least two full Spring seasons.
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Freedumb Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1101 WA Gender:	Re: Females who denigrate their own gender sexually Reply #8 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:28pm Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:38pm: Thank God I don't see too many females squatting down and marking their territory on my front lawn. Those little burn patches wouldn't recover for at least two full Spring seasons. I genuinely laughed out loud. Nice one.
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Reply #9 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:31pm

Freedumb wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:28pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:38pm:

Thank God I don't see too many females squatting down and marking their territory on my front lawn.

Those little burn patches wouldn't recover for at least two full Spring seasons.

I genuinely laughed out loud. Nice one. Cheesy

Really? Where were the funny bits, or images?

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Reply #10 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:32pm

The Mole wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:27pm:

It's a cut throat world out there..and the bitch in every women is sitting just below the surface.

Mind you some men could give the girls a run for their money.

In this day and age the lines between man and women are blurred, so you simply can't even explain something as sexist when our personalities are pretty much hermaphrodites, and some of us even apply this physically through hormones and cross-dressing!
Men are feminine and women are very blokey these days. I mean look at some of the politicians: Kevin Rudd is feminine, and then you have Jackie Lambi. I wouldn't even be surprised if she had a penis.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Females who denigrate their own gender sexually Reply #11 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:41pm I don't understand what you mean by put a woman down sexually. Are you talking about shaming? Could you give an example of what you mean?
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Reply #12 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:47pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:41pm:

I don't understand what you mean by put a woman down sexually. Are you talking about shaming? Could you give an example of what you mean?

I dunno, and no doubt Mantra will clarify. Maybe she used the word 'sexually' when she was really referring to gender?

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Reply #13 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:57pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:47pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:41pm:

I don't understand what you mean by put a woman down sexually. Are you talking about shaming? Could you give an example of what you mean?

I dunno, and no doubt Mantra will clarify. Maybe she used the word 'sexually' when she was really referring to gender?

Maybe. Whether its affective or instrumental, aggression directed at women by other women is typically relational. Bullying, social exclusion etc. There's an evolutionary basis for it. If a woman is sexually denigrating another woman, she probably feels threatened by her in some way.

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Reply #14 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:05pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:47pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 9:41pm:

I don't understand what you mean by put a woman down sexually. Are you talking about shaming? Could you give an example of what you mean?

I dunno, and no doubt Mantra will clarify. Maybe she used the word 'sexually' when she was really referring to gender?

Maybe. Whether its affective or instrumental, aggression directed at women by other women is typically relational. Bullying, social exclusion etc. There's an evolutionary basis for it. If a woman is sexually denigrating another woman, she probably feels threatened by her in some way.

What do you mean by 'threatened?' In what way? I mean, I'm pretty sure that if a woman was looking to protect her position at work, it would not matter whether a male or female was looking like a challenger......she'd be equally self-protective against both in whatever way was effective?

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