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Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:22pm
 
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Australia has left the door open to contributing to US-led air strikes in Iraq but indicated it was not considering putting combat forces on the ground.

Tony Abbott’s office said the prime minister would consider any request from the US “based on whether there is an achievable overall humanitarian purpose and a clear and proportionate role for Australia as well as on a careful assessment of the risks”.

Australia outlined its position following a report in the New York Times indicating that Barack Obama had begun to mobilise a broad coalition of allies behind potential American military action in Syria and was moving towards expanded air strikes in Iraq.

The New York Times cited US administration officials as saying they expected Britain and Australia would be willing to join the US in an air campaign.

Meanwhile, a Kurdish representative to Australia has asked the federal government to join the US and other nations in providing military support and ammunition to assist them in the fight against Islamic State in northern Iraq.

Abbott’s office said the government had made it clear that Islamic State, also known as Isis, represented “a serious threat, not only in Iraq and Syria and the wider Middle East, but also to Australia’s national security”.


Link: theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/27/tony-abbott-leaves-door-open-for-australian-ro
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Reply #1 - Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:26pm
 
The ISIS Threat: Western Leaders Fear-Monger to Mobilize Support for Air-Strikes on Syria

One of the roles of leading politicians and top officials of the state is to enlist public support for policies which serve the goals of the upper stratum of the population from whose ranks they sometimes come and whose interests they almost invariably promote. When these policies are at odds with the interests of the majority, as they often are, the mobilization of public consent is possible only through deception. The deception is carried out through prevarication, equivocation, and fear-mongering, crystallized into misleading narratives which the mass media can be reliably counted on to amplify. So it is that Western officials have ramped up a campaign of deception to provide a pretext for military intervention in Syria to combat ISIS but which may very well serve as a Trojan horse to escalate the war on the Syrian government.

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Reply #2 - Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:28pm
 
Looks like the US will be forced to deal with sketchy leaders in that region to deal with ISIS and AUS will be dragged along ...
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Reply #3 - Aug 27th, 2014 at 11:29pm
 
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No 10 rejects reports that UK is willing to join US air campaign against Isis

Government sources have expressed surprise over US media reports indicating that Britain is willing to take part in an air campaign alongside the US against Islamic State (Isis) fighters in Syria.

Downing Street said there had been no request from Washington for the UK to contribute to air strikes. Ministers have not ruled out air strikes, but they have consistently played down the prospect of Britain getting involved in a bombing campaign. Officials have insisted that Britain's focus is on helping the Iraqis and Kurds fight Isis by providing assistance with surveillance and supplying equipment.

"There would need to be a lot of discussion before Britain got involved in air strikes and we have not had any specific requests from the US on this," said a senior government source. "Our focus has not been on air strikes. It hasn't been on the table, and it has not been discussed."

The British response followed a report in the New York Times, citing unnamed US officials as saying that Britain and Australia would be willing to join an air campaign against Isis forces in Iraq and Syria.

The paper reported that the US president, Barack Obama, had begun to assemble a coalition of allies and neighbours in the region to increase their support for Syria's moderate opposition and, in some cases, to provide backing for possible US military operations.


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Reply #4 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 8:39am
 
Gutless high tech TERMINATORS
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Reply #5 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 8:49am
 
Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 8:39am:
Gutless high tech TERMINATORS





You aren't quite smart enough to troll this board are you?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Back to the kiddies table with you


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Reply #6 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 6:06pm
 
Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 8:39am:
Gutless high tech TERMINATORS


Not making much sense there dude.
The days of the shield wall are gone.
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Reply #7 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 7:10pm
 
Perhaps he thinks we must head over there with a knife, a seven year old boy, and a camera.
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Reply #8 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 7:12pm
 
Tony will lead our troops into battle.


He's a leader not a follower.
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Reply #9 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 9:08pm
 
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AUSTRALIA is in a “high state of readiness’’ but is yet to be formally approached to join any US-led military campaign against Islamic State terrorists in northern Iraq.

Defence Minister David Johnston has given his strongest indication yet that Australian forces are preparing to be part of a new coalition, but has declined to be drawn on what Australia “might or might not do operationally’’.

“We’ve got Super Hornets. They’re incredibly capable. They’re exactly what flies off US aircraft carriers. Now, that’s an obvious first port of call were we to consider it necessary to participate with our friends and our ally,’’ he told ABC TV’s Lateline.

Asked if the Super Hornets were in the region, Senator Johnston said: “We’re at a high state of readiness. We’re at a good state of readiness at all times. Apart from saying that, I wouldn’t want to say any more.’’

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But Senator Johnston said Australia hasn’t been “approached yet other than with respect to humanitarian relief’’.

US President Barack Obama has not yet formally requested additional Australian support in Iraq or Syria to fight Islamic State fighters, ­including Australian ­extremists, but, as foreshadowed in The Australian on Monday, he has signalled a widening of US ­action and more support from ­allies such as Britain and Australia.


Link:  theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/australia-ready-to-join-us-in-figh
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I think they are just testing to see if the people will protest against being involved once again into another war created by the US.  The 'friends and allies' excuse is being overused.  If your 'friends and allies' ask you to jump in the lake should you or should you have enough common sense to say enough is enough.  Syria is what the Zionists are after so why now when they have been supporting & arming ISIS all along while they were murdering Syrians, it's the same 'moderates' they've been supporting just change the name and try to fool the masses.
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Reply #10 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 9:29pm
 
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Syria’s ambassador to the UN says Israel allows the free flow of weapons and ISIL militants into the occupied Golan Heights and then into the rest of Syria.

Bashar Ja’afari told Press TV on Friday that the ISIL Takfiri terrorists have an undeclared alliance with Israel and are engaged in a secret agreement with the  regime.

The Israelis help the Takfiris infiltrate into the separation line on the Golan Heights from Jordan, where their training camps are located, the Syrian diplomat said.

The remarks came after the UN Security Council on Friday unanimously adopted a resolution condemning the ISIL terrorist activities in Syria and Iraq.

The Syrian ambassador to the UN also stated that “everybody knows that Jordan is hosting secret training camps.”

Amman has not commented on this yet.

The UN resolution is aimed at cutting off funding and the flow of foreign militants to the ISIL. The 15-member Security Council called for action against the terrorists, who, it said must “disarm and disband with immediate effect.”

ISIL militants now control large swathes of territory in Iraq and Syria. They also have several oil fields under control.

Iraq, which has the world’s fifth-biggest crude reserves, came under a massive blitz by the ISIL Takfiri militants in early June.

Ja’afari reminded the UN Security Council that Damascus had repeatedly warned of the Takfiri threat for three years.

He went on to say that if the UN had not ignored the terrorist activities in Syria, ISIL militants would not be able to create chaos in Iraq today.

Ja’afari also said the Syrian government plays a major role in the campaign against terrorism.


Link:  presstv.com/detail/2014/08/16/375477/israel-and-isil-allies-syrian-envoy/
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Reply #11 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 9:44pm
 
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French Report ISIL(ISIS) Leader Al-Baghdadi Jewish Mossad Agent!

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, so-called  ”Caliph,”  the head of ISIL (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant is, according to sources reputed to originate from Edward Snowden, an actor named Elliot Shimon, a Mossad trained operative.
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Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi was born of two Jewish parents and is a Mossad agent. We offer below three translations that want to assert that the Caliph Al-Baghdadi is a full Mossad agent and that he was born Jewish father and mother:
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The real name of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is “Simon Elliott.” The so-called “Elliot” was recruited by the Israeli Mossad  and was trained in espionage and psychological warfare against Arab and Islamic societies.
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This information was attributed to Edward Snowden and published by newspapers and other Web sites: the head of the “Islamic State” Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, has cooperated with the U.S. Secret Service, British and Israel to create an organization capable of attracting terrorist extremists from around the world.
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Source: Radio ajyal.com
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Another source corroborates this statement, the site Egy-press:
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With photo support, a Iranian media discovers the true identity of the Emir Daash, a trained Zionist agent.
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Iranian intelligence discovered the true and full identity of the Emir Daash, which is known under the name Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi; his real name is Elliot Shimon. Its role in Mossad secret agent in the Zionist espionage. His false name: Ibrahim ibn Awad ibn Ibrahim Al Al Badri Arradoui Hoseini.
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The plan: get into the military and civilian heart of the countries that are declared as a threat to Israel in order to destroy to facilitate thereafter, the takeover by the Zionist state on the entire area of the Middle East in order to establish Greater Israel.
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Here are the borders of the Zionist project, the “Greater Israel” or “Eretz Israel” for short.
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These facts confirm the first that came out a few days ago, confirming that the Caliph Rolex is sent to Israel to sow chaos in neighboring countries the Zionist entity. Please note that EIIL announced it a few days ago that, to want to now take the “barbarians Jews”, a reference to Zionists besiege Gaza.
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Practice! Having devastated the area of Israel, it will now allow the Americans and the Israelis to show the fingers as bloody terrorists to shoot at faster to defend the Zionist state, while the same let them proliferate and act with impunity for over two months now. Prepare a project they probably from the famous Arab Spring with the destabilization of Iraq, Sudan, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Syria and Mali (among others). Clever!
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Listen and listen again Bernard-Henri Lévy on these so-called Arab Spring: (bottom of post)
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After gathering the most fanatical of the world in one place, a veritable army of the devil is formed, filled with bloodthirsty murderers without mercy for their victims, they murder with a vengeance and in cold blood, filming their atrocities and relaying on social networks.



Link: socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/french-report-isilisis-leader-al-baghda
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Reply #12 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:10pm
 
[quote]Myth of ‘Limited’ US Airstrikes in Syria
Link: en.ria.ru/analysis/20140826/192371043/Myth-of-Limited-US-Airstrikes-in-Syria.htm
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The US is once again on the warpath against Syria after the beheading of US citizen James Foley was released on the internet a week ago.

The US is once again on the warpath against Syria after the beheading of US citizen James Foley was released on the internet a week ago.

His execution is being used to justify a mixed anti-terror and ‘humanitarian’ intervention in northeastern Syria. An information offensive has now been launched to peddle the myth of ‘limited’ strikes against Islamic State (IS) targets, but in all actuality, such a campaign is impossible to contain within the strict limits US authorities are promising.

Obama has already authorized surveillance flights over Syrian territory, showing that an attack appears to be imminent. A quick exercise in scenario forecasting illustrates how any US intervention in Syria will most certainly evolve from a ‘limited anti-terror operation’ to a massive military offensive, complete with proxy occupations and a full-scale outbreak of chaos throughout the entire country.

Symbolism and Substance

Should the US make the decision to strike Syria, it will be carrying with it both symbolism and substance. The action would be symbolic due to it being in complete contravention of Syria’s sovereignty, a position which Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem reaffirmed earlier this week. Whether by drone or by jet, the US would be showing that it can and will violate Syrian sovereignty as it sees fit. This is enabled by the fact that IS’ turf is mostly removed from any of the Syrian Arab Army’s (SAA) air defense units, thereby allowing the US to attack with military impunity.

Secondly, the US’ strikes would surely carry with them prime substance, as the rhetoric being expressed by Washington guarantees nothing short of it. They would not be the token gestures evidenced in northern Iraq, but rather a full-fledged operation designed to achieve concrete military objectives. On the public front, this would be to decimate Islamic State and its leadership, but in fact, such an objective cannot be achieved by air strikes alone, especially in populated urban areas like Raqqa.

The Stepping Stone

This brings the US to the next probable stage of its military campaign – ground forces. It is extremely unlikely that the US will use its own conventional forces in the field, as its special forces are cheaper, more effective, and less of a political and physical liability. Another option, of course, is for the heavily armed and highly trained Kurdish Peshmerga to ‘chase’ IS into Syria from Iraq and carry out ground operations on behalf of the US. The precedent of joint military cooperation has already been set previously when both sides partook in a coordinated offensive against IS' occupation of the Mosul Dam, with the US doing the bombing and the Kurds being the cannon fodder. The Iraqi Peshmerga’s military expansion into Syria would also achieve the dual purpose of expanding the fledging (and de-facto recognized) Kurdish state, another major American strategic objective in the region.

Filling the Void

With all the hubbub and speculation about an American strike, few have actually put any public thought into what comes next. For example, IS could either be decimated or strategically driven like cattle away from the combat zone and closer to Damascus,(in the same fashion as they have been corralled into going from northern Iraq back into Syria), taking all of their heavy armaments with them along the way. No matter what happens, though, it remains indisputable that there will be a security void in their previously occupied territories, opening up the question of which entity should fill it.

It can be taken for granted that the US will never allow the SAA to liberate the territory after Washington’s tax-dollar funded bombs paved the way, since that would completely reverse the billions in dollars of funding and support that the US, EU, Turkey, and Gulf Kingdoms have placed in the anti-establishment forces fighting the Syrian government over the past three years. Thus, the US’ campaign will of course not be one of liberation, but rather of trading one occupier for another, in this case, the Kurds, a rejuvenated ‘Free Syrian Army (FSA), the Turks (with or without being an official NATO mission), or a combination thereof, with the public reasoning being that the failure to fill the resultant security void could create a breeding ground for an IS 2.0.

‘Finishing the Job’

After the removal of IS from their bastions in northeast Syria (whether by destruction or driving them towards Damascus) and their replacement with Kurdish/FSA/Turkish forces, the US and its ‘coalition of the willing’ will be pressured to ‘finish the job’ one way or another. In the first scenario branch, if IS is somehow destroyed and no longer a threat, then the US may want to seize the strategic initiative and make a drive towards Damascus to finally overthrow the government. After all, they would already be on the offensive and actively engaged in the war zone as it is, and Damascus is definitely within striking range of US aircraft or drones already bombing Syria. The new occupying forces of northern Syria could then carry their offensive south, break the security crescent linking Damascus with the coast, and go in for the paralyzing kill.
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Reply #13 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:11pm
 
The second scenario branch is very similar, but instead of pursuing naked regime change, it strategically pushes IS towards Damascus by using airstrikes in the same manner as a shepherd uses a staff to herd sheep. This accomplishes two important goals; first, it pushes the world’s most deadly and militarily efficient non-state actor all the way through the country and towards the capital, sowing destruction in its wake; and secondly, it provides the US and its proxy allies with the justification for continuing their campaign all the way to the capital and de-facto carrying out regime change under an anti-terror guise.

Without a doubt, the regime change objective can be sped up or publicly ‘justified’ if Syria defends its airspace and fires on American jets or drones. If the beheading of a single citizen by a rogue terrorist group can be a casus belli against an entire state per the US’ reasoning, then it goes without saying how it would respond to missiles being launched against its military vehicles, especially those engaged in an ‘anti-terrorist’ mission. More than likely, Syria will then be painted as a terrorist-supporting state (there is already false information in the Western media that Syria cooperates with IS) and the entire government will then be officially targeted for elimination.

Concluding Thoughts

After having accomplished its soft coup in Iraq against Maliki, the US now feels emboldened enough to aggressively press forward with its long-held regime change dreams against Syria, feverishly seeking to exploit any opportunity to justifiably do so. This barbarically includes using a dead man’s decapitated head as a rallying cry in an effort to strike at the primordial emotions of every human being and manipulate them into supporting a ‘vengeful’ war. To appease the domestic and international audience, the US government is only talking about ‘limited’ airstrikes against IS targets in Syria, but when placed under a simple analysis, these are demonstrated to be anything but. Not only will they be used to justify regime change via various arguments, but they will also result in the replacement of one occupier of Syrian territory with another, which in turn can eventually make the de-facto partitioning of the country de-jure. This means that the Syrian Crisis is precipitously teetering on the brink of becoming a full-scale international war, one which places the very existence of secular Syria and its resistance identity into jeopardy.
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Reply #14 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 1:31pm
 
SO jmjcare...Do you really think that a Russian news agency will give a balanced and unbiased opinion on Russia's interactions with the Ukraine???
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