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lee wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 12:00pm:

How does such a meter work?

lee wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 12:00pm:


Surely must make you wonder, lee, why we're experiencing record high monthly temperatures even with such a weak El Niño effect.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31^st, 2014 at 8:17pm:



That's got to be it' greggery. That's got to be why the scientific community is so confused.

 

MOTR wrote on Jul 30^th, 2014 at 6:29am:

A little late. People in the know  are way ahead of you and BOM

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1401667246/25#25
progressiveslol wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2014 at 3:12pm:

'An updated list of at least 29 excuses for the 18 year ‘pause’ in global warming, including recent scientific papers, media quotes, blogs, and related debunkings: '

1) Low solar activity

2) Oceans ate the global warming [debunked] [debunked] [debunked]

3) Chinese coal use [debunked]

4) Montreal Protocol

5) What ‘pause’? [debunked] [debunked] [debunked] [debunked]

6) Volcanic aerosols [debunked]

7) Stratospheric Water Vapor

8) Faster Pacific trade winds [debunked]

9) Stadium Waves

10) ‘Coincidence!’

11) Pine aerosols

12) It’s “not so unusual” and “no more than natural variability”

13) “Scientists looking at the wrong ‘lousy’ data”

14) Cold nights getting colder in Northern Hemisphere

15) We forgot to cherry-pick models in tune with natural variability [debunked]

16) Negative phase of Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation

17) AMOC ocean oscillation

18) “Global brightening” has stopped

19) “Ahistorical media”

20) “It’s the hottest decade ever” Decadal averages used to hide the ‘pause’ [debunked]

21) Few El Ninos since 1999

22) Temperature variations fall “roughly in the middle of the AR4 model results”

23) “Not scientifically relevant”

24) The wrong type of El Ninos

25) Slower trade winds [debunked]

26) The climate is less sensitive to CO2 than previously thought [see also]

27) PDO and AMO natural cycles and here

28) ENSO

29) Solar cycle driven ocean temperature variations

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/30/list-of-excuses-for-the-pause-now-up-to-29...

It has links to the papers- Trenberth and others.

Yes I know it's WUWT but even Trenberth rates WUWT (according to his media page), but he doesn't rate SKS.

3 points Lee.

1. Atmospheric warming is not monotonic.

2. There is no pause in global warming if you honestly factor in the warming of the oceans.

3. If you cherry pick the right dates you can statistically manufacture a pause in atmospheric warming. But only if you are deliberately trying to hide the truth. A more honest appraisal tells us something very different.

MOTR wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 8:09pm:



Are you talking AGW or global warming generally?

Rider wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 8:21pm:

DO YOU KNOW THAT TEMPERATURE IS JUST AN INDICATOR 

THAT IS WHY ERROR VALUES ARE NEEDED... ALL MEASUREMENTS ARE TAKEN WITH INDICATORS AND SO ALL MEASUREMENTS HAVE ERROR VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM: DO YOU EVEN COMPREHEND WHAT i'M SAYING BRO?

OF COURSE YOU DO... VESTED INTERESTS KNOW ENOUGH 

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31^st, 2014 at 8:17pm:

uM, "WHAT ISN'T A MAN-MADE CONCEPT?", MAY I ASK THE ENLIGHTENED ONE CALLED GREGGERY 

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 11:27pm:


Divergence. When reality trumps fraud.

http://notrickszone.com/2014/08/01/divergence-between-model-temperature-and-reality-reaches-record-high-and-is-now-accelerating/

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2014 at 8:58am:


Sure. Do you know the difference between bovine and equine excrement?

Cause either of these is all that you've got.

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 1^st, 2014 at 11:34pm:



Weather, and climate.

You're trying to analyse forces of nature by applying man-made abstract concepts. 

Too funny   

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2014 at 12:50pm:

How else is analysis done, mr greggary?